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The miracle of toilet paper

Started by Calm, 17th October 2009 09:53 PM

alive, as2, beat, breasts, characteristically, continue, day, deal, fresh, front, grow, husband, larger, meals, miracle, mirror, missing, paper, period, piece, replies, rubbing, stand, stopped, straw, stupid, telling, therapy, toilet, walk

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Views: 1,257

Last Post By:: Last Post: 19th October 2009 05:05 AM; by artme

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Toilet pan on mortar bed?

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 16th October 2009 01:40 PM

bed, difference, discovered, fair, impression, install, leak, makes, moment, mortar, murray, nice, p.s, pan, plonked, read, renovateforum.com, retiling, sat, silicone, slab, solid, sound, struck, stumps, thinking, thread, tiles, toilet, toilets

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Views: 2,458

Last Post By:: Last Post: 16th October 2009 01:40 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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side inlet or back inlet

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 13th October 2009 05:00 PM

advice, appreciated, attached, bathroom, dave, inlet, photo, read, renovateforum.com, renovating, thread, thumbnails, toilet

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Views: 1,915

Last Post By:: Last Post: 13th October 2009 05:00 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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Roll-On Render

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 6th October 2009 07:40 PM

add, bunnings, buy, cheap, comment, option, product, read, render, renovateforum.com, roll-on, sale, thread, toilet, water

Replies: 0
Views: 2,900

Last Post By:: Last Post: 6th October 2009 07:40 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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Incorporating a shower & toilet into a laundry

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 6th October 2009 05:40 PM

bathroom, builder, colonel1, concerete, cost, drainage, easiest, exercise, existing, expensive, gidday, idea, install, installing, laundry, line, read, renos, renovateforum.com, sewer, shower, similiar, sink, slab, taps, thread, toilet, wall, wash, wondering

Replies: 0
Views: 1,891

Last Post By:: Last Post: 6th October 2009 05:40 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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Idea Check - Nuwave sound insulation plus Plasterboard

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 30th September 2009 03:30 PM

bedroom, block, blocks, bond, bricks, cheers, chip, cracking, cut, drywall, holes, insulation, mount, mounting, mounts, noise, nuwave, paul, plaster, plasterboard, read, reliable, rendered, renovateforum.com, sound, stick, thinking, thread, toilet, wall

Replies: 0
Views: 2,049

Last Post By:: Last Post: 30th September 2009 03:30 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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5cm step between laundry / toilet slabs

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 24th September 2009 08:10 PM

100mm, 2000mm, 2050mm, concrete, crack, damage, eaten, floors, height, house, impossible, internal, laundry, legal, level, localised, main, permeated, read, reduce, renovateforum.com, slab, slabs, soft, step, termites, thread, toilet, wall, wood

Replies: 0
Views: 1,734

Last Post By:: Last Post: 24th September 2009 08:10 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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What are my chances?

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 21st September 2009 07:20 PM

1100mm, 1200mm, 1500mm, 2700mm, 3300mm, advance, bath, bathroom, chances, corner, double, entrance, forum, gentle, read, remodel, renovateforum.com, shower, sink, spa, thread, time, toilet, vanity, wall

Replies: 0
Views: 1,711

Last Post By:: Last Post: 21st September 2009 07:20 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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To move rooms, Or not to move rooms....

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 18th September 2009 09:50 AM

add, assuming, astronomical, bathroom, bedroom, compared, costs, dilemma, ensuite, existing, flow, house, kitchen, laundry, leave, main, move, people, plumbing, read, renovate, renovateforum.com, stay, swap, thread, toilet, weighs

Replies: 0
Views: 1,616

Last Post By:: Last Post: 18th September 2009 09:50 AM; by Reno RSS Feed

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Cutting Galvanised Water pipe

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 15th September 2009 04:00 PM

advice, copper, cut, cutting, external, floor, galv, grinder, hope, house, internal, lowest, meter, pipe, pipes, plan, power, property, read, renovateforum.com, running, stage, street, tap, thread, toilet, tool, verandah, wall, water

Replies: 0
Views: 2,070

Last Post By:: Last Post: 15th September 2009 04:00 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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pull chain shower head

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 8th September 2009 01:20 AM

access, bilge, building, chain, collecting, composting, electric, head, ideas, manual, outdoor, power, process, pull, pump, pumps, read, real, reiner, renovateforum.com, roof, shower, sorted, tank, thread, toilet, valve, water, watertank, weekender

Replies: 0
Views: 2,688

Last Post By:: Last Post: 8th September 2009 01:20 AM; by Reno RSS Feed

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Thermostatic control for new shower

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 2nd September 2009 11:40 AM

90s, aussie, bathrooms, bathrooms/showers, changing, cheers, control, exist, feature, flushed, house, hubs, machine, plumber, read, renovated, renovateforum.com, renovating, running, shower, standard, suzer, temps, thermostatic, thread, toilet, transplant, type, washing, yep

Replies: 0
Views: 1,539

Last Post By:: Last Post: 2nd September 2009 11:40 AM; by Reno RSS Feed

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old clay sewer toilet connection

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 26th August 2009 12:30 PM

1930s+, add, bath, bathroom, clay, connected, connection, drainage, excavate, floor, gully, house, implications, laundry, level, main, metres, outhouse, proper, read, remove, renovateforum.com, serviced, sewer, structure, thread, tired, toilet, trap, wondering

Replies: 0
Views: 2,797

Last Post By:: Last Post: 26th August 2009 12:30 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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tiling under or around toilet bowl?

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 18th August 2009 09:50 AM

bolted, bowl, disturbing, flange, flooding, floor, issue, move, moving, pipe, read, renovateforum.com, starts, suggestions, suspect, thread, tile, tiling, toilet, underneath, vinyl

Replies: 0
Views: 1,820

Last Post By:: Last Post: 18th August 2009 09:50 AM; by Reno RSS Feed

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need a new kitchen, bathroom and paling fence

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 16th August 2009 01:40 PM

advance, backyard, bathroom, brisbane, builders, fence, kitchen, paling, read, recommend, reliable, renovateforum.com, reputable, south, thread, toilet, tradies

Replies: 0
Views: 1,510

Last Post By:: Last Post: 16th August 2009 01:40 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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Composting Toilet

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 10th August 2009 09:50 AM

composting, lot, property, read, reading, reiner, renovateforum.com, thread, toilet, toilets, weekend

Replies: 0
Views: 1,488

Last Post By:: Last Post: 10th August 2009 09:50 AM; by Reno RSS Feed

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Hi from Melbourne

Started by Ricardito, 1st August 2009 09:29 AM

active, attempting, bathroom, cabinets, coming, concerns, finally, fit, flat, floor, flooring, forum, forward, furniture, joining, kitchen, learn, meet, melbourne, parquet, play, re-tile, renovate, share, space, thin, tiling, toilet, unit, walls

Replies: 6
Views: 1,170

Last Post By:: Last Post: 3rd August 2009 10:41 AM; by artme

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Why some men prefer dogs to women

Started by Woodwould, 30th July 2009 03:45 PM

calling, collar, company, dirty, dog, dogs, eating, enjoy, farts, gladly, join, keeping, late, lemon, mad, men, mind, night, pee, pervert, prefer, ride, smells, studded, tire, toilet, tree, ute, voice, women

Replies: 3
Views: 1,305

Last Post By:: Last Post: 31st July 2009 11:47 AM; by rosewood

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Floor priority during renovation...

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 31st July 2009 12:20 AM

10mm, bathroom, bits, boards, complete, cover, edge, edges, exist, floorboards, floors, items, kitchen, objects, painting, pete, plasterboard, plastering, preliminary, read, renovateforum.com, renovation, sand, sander, sanding, seal, shower, skirting, thread, toilet

Replies: 0
Views: 1,693

Last Post By:: Last Post: 31st July 2009 12:20 AM; by Reno RSS Feed

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Plasterboard for bathroom

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 27th July 2009 02:30 PM

advice, bathroom, board, building, called, door, existing, install, plasterboard, pull, read, renovateforum.com, simple, suited, thread, toilet, villa, wall, wondering

Replies: 0
Views: 1,329

Last Post By:: Last Post: 27th July 2009 02:30 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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toilet with a small depth, where to get

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 24th July 2009 09:30 PM

640, 665, current, depth, door, hit, house, read, renovateforum.com, renovating, seat, sit, sits, space, thread, toilet, toilets, wall

Replies: 0
Views: 5,994

Last Post By:: Last Post: 24th July 2009 09:30 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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Best Order for bathroom installations

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 24th July 2009 09:30 PM

bath, bathroom, ceiling, delivery, electrical, fit, hole, install, installations, installed, leave, lights/fan, mirror, plumber, product, read, renovateforum.com, screen, shower, stick, stuck, thread, tile, tiles, tiling, time, toilet, vanity, wall, weeks

Replies: 0
Views: 1,540

Last Post By:: Last Post: 24th July 2009 09:30 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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DIY P Trap toilet installation

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 24th July 2009 03:20 PM

colonel1, completing, diy, existing, gidday, installation, instructions, internet, job, link, provide, read, renovateforum.com, replacing, thread, tips, toilet, trap

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Views: 6,756

Last Post By:: Last Post: 24th July 2009 03:20 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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DIY P Trap toilet installation

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 24th July 2009 03:20 PM

colonel1, complete, diy, existing, gidday, guide, guys, ie;, installation, internet, p-trap, provide, read, renovateforum.com, replacing, step, thread, tips, toilet, trap

Replies: 0
Views: 5,263

Last Post By:: Last Post: 24th July 2009 03:20 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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DIY bathroom reno help required

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 14th July 2009 09:30 PM

base, bath, bathroom, bowl, brick, cement, channels, cistern, diy, floor, frame, furring, install, joists, metal, mounted, pedastal, plan, read, reno, renovateforum.com, stud, thread, tiling, timber, toilet, type, villaboard, wall, walls

Replies: 0
Views: 1,890

Last Post By:: Last Post: 14th July 2009 09:30 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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blocked toilet probs

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 12th July 2009 01:30 AM

badly, bit, blockage, blocked, cap, chance, cheers, clean, evidence, existing, flushing, glen, insight, inspection, junction, leak, pipe, plunging, properly, reach, read, reason, renovateforum.com, revealed, sewer, sewer/waste, thread, toilet, unblocker, waste

Replies: 0
Views: 1,730

Last Post By:: Last Post: 12th July 2009 01:30 AM; by Reno RSS Feed

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Window in bathroom?

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 7th July 2009 09:30 PM

allowed, basin, bath, bathroom, cheers, completely, consists, day, double, guys, home, independent, install, light, live, normal, planning, read, renovateforum.com, reply, rid, shower, size, sky, switch, thread, toilet, victoria, window, wondering

Replies: 0
Views: 1,285

Last Post By:: Last Post: 7th July 2009 09:30 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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DOORS, WINDOWS, ARCHITRAVES & SKIRTS ETC

What would be the Worlds greatst workshop

Started by Phil Spencer, 1st July 2009 09:21 AM

3 Pages •: 1 2 3

air, band, cabinet, compressed, dust, extraction, finally, forum, greatst, hand, issue, jointer, lathe, metal, mill, money, no2s, plumbed, pole, refrigerator, separate, stocked, system, thicknesser, toilet, tool, tools, wife, workshop, worlds

Replies: 38
Views: 4,118

Last Post By:: Last Post: 3rd July 2009 01:39 AM; by tea lady

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floor not level - tiling

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 2nd July 2009 08:20 PM

build, cement, compound, drops, fixing, floor, glue, laying, level, leveling, perfectly, read, recommended, renovateforum.com, slab, surface, thread, tiles, tiling, toilet

Replies: 0
Views: 1,196

Last Post By:: Last Post: 2nd July 2009 08:20 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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young billy

Started by texx, 29th June 2009 09:10 AM

alright, awhile, billy, boy, doody, fine, gripping, hand, head, hitting, ketchup, left, minutes, mommy, mother, seat, sitting, stay, toilet, top, young

Replies: 1
Views: 1,107

Last Post By:: Last Post: 29th June 2009 03:20 PM; by underfoot

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Bathroom renovation wall removal & patching

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 28th June 2009 11:40 PM

bathroom, bigger, bit, ceiling, cornices, cut, cutting, fill, filling, gap, gaps, glued, join, knocked, method, painting, patching, read, removal, renovateforum.com, renovating, renovation, shape, sheeting, suit, tape, thread, toilet, wall, whacking

Replies: 0
Views: 1,802

Last Post By:: Last Post: 28th June 2009 11:40 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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American Toilet on Australian plumbing

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 19th June 2009 02:10 PM

advice, america, american, ansi, australia, australian, bigger, changing, convert, din, figure, folks, guys, heard, home, install, install/have, installed, installing, learn, plumber, plumbing, read, renovateforum.com, single, thread, time, toilet, toilets

Replies: 0
Views: 2,094

Last Post By:: Last Post: 19th June 2009 02:10 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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Plaster or Asbestos

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 15th June 2009 05:40 PM

1950s, appears, appreciated, bathroom, bought, ceiling, cheers, clad, comment, cornice, cover, fibro, fixings, house, joins, laundry, plaster, presume, read, remainder, renovateforum.com, sheet, similar, sit, start, strips, thread, toilet, top, visible

Replies: 0
Views: 1,558

Last Post By:: Last Post: 15th June 2009 05:40 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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Blocked Drain in bathroom and toilet, help!

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 15th June 2009 12:40 AM

advise, bathroom, blockage, blocked, drain, drains, filling, fix, flooding, flush, front, hole, hoping, house, jules, kitchen, laundry, noticed, overflow, read, renovateforum.com, roll, shower, showers, thread, toilet, water

Replies: 0
Views: 1,702

Last Post By:: Last Post: 15th June 2009 12:40 AM; by Reno RSS Feed

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Hi this is my first time on a forum

Started by coltal, 10th June 2009 06:29 PM

brick, caused, damp, deteriorated, double, fifties, forum, foundation, foundations, home, house, lime, limestone, product, repair, seal, stone, struggling, style, tap, time, toilet, usual, walls

Replies: 2
Views: 982

Last Post By:: Last Post: 12th June 2009 12:12 AM; by Christos

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How to install a floor trap in existing concrete slab?

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 8th June 2009 08:20 AM

50mm, angle, channel, concrete, cut, deep, diameter, existing, fall, floor, grinder, install, jackhammer, lines, lot, middle, pipe, read, renovateforum.com, required, screed, slab, thinking, thread, toilet, trap, vermin, wall, wast, wastes

Replies: 0
Views: 1,923

Last Post By:: Last Post: 8th June 2009 08:20 AM; by Reno RSS Feed

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How to install a floor trap in existing concrete slab?

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 8th June 2009 08:20 AM

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Views: 4,551

Last Post By:: Last Post: 8th June 2009 08:20 AM; by Reno RSS Feed

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Timber sash window in shower recess - Design Dilemma

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 4th June 2009 08:30 AM

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Replies: 0
Views: 3,684

Last Post By:: Last Post: 4th June 2009 08:30 AM; by Reno RSS Feed

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How to clean the toilet bowl

Started by Tez2, 17th May 2009 12:01 AM

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Replies: 8
Views: 2,039

Last Post By:: Last Post: 22nd May 2009 11:02 AM; by roygrady

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Best S & P trap Toilets?

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 19th May 2009 12:50 AM

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Replies: 0
Views: 3,077

Last Post By:: Last Post: 19th May 2009 12:50 AM; by Reno RSS Feed

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help new skirted toilet installation onto cast iron

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 14th May 2009 09:20 PM

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Views: 1,498

Last Post By:: Last Post: 14th May 2009 09:20 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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Little Jonny

Started by Bluegum, 13th May 2009 09:13 PM

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Replies: 2
Views: 1,189

Last Post By:: Last Post: 13th May 2009 11:17 PM; by fenderbelly

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Light globe supply in Victoria

Started by Boxmaker, 8th May 2009 05:06 PM

altered, banned, bathroom, couple, do.they, feel, fluoro, globe, globes, globes.all, helogen, incandecent, interstate.~, light, lighting, limited, out-, reading, replacement, replacing, shops, shrug, spots, supply, thousands$$$, toilet, victoria, wiring, worth, yesterday

Replies: 3
Views: 2,916

Last Post By:: Last Post: 9th May 2009 07:26 AM; by Boxmaker

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Inserting a toilet into a 1950s style bathroom.

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 4th May 2009 08:10 PM

1950s, approximately, basin, bath, bathroom, btw, complications, cost, costs, expensive, fantasic, forego, forums, ground, inserting, intersted, moment, plumbing, question, read, regular, renovateforum.com, renovations, shower, style, thinking, thread, toilet, visitor

Replies: 0
Views: 1,846

Last Post By:: Last Post: 4th May 2009 08:10 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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kitchen to bathroom question

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 25th April 2009 09:00 PM

bathroom, door, doorways, kitchen, narrow, passage, question, read, renovateforum.com, rule, thread, toilet

Replies: 0
Views: 1,279

Last Post By:: Last Post: 25th April 2009 09:00 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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Floor tiling & toilets

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 17th April 2009 03:00 PM

advantage, bed, cheers, destroy, dual, fixed, floor, floors, flush, future, government, local, offer, plan, question, re-installed, re-tiling, read, removed, removing, renovateforum.com, replace, replaced, silicone, style, thread, tiles, toilet, toilets, top

Replies: 0
Views: 1,910

Last Post By:: Last Post: 17th April 2009 03:00 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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Turning a kitchen into a bathroom

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 16th April 2009 12:30 AM

aware, awesome.wink, bathroom, cost, donna, floorplan, footprint, house, ideally, input, kid, kitchen, original, plumbing, positions, read, renovateforum.com, renovating, repositioning, size, swap, thread, toilet, wise

Replies: 0
Views: 2,720

Last Post By:: Last Post: 16th April 2009 12:30 AM; by Reno RSS Feed

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ensuite build

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 14th April 2009 03:30 PM

1.4, 1.5, 2.2m, approx, basin, build, builder, comments, david, door, ensuite, hope, middle, min, mini, plenty, read, renovateforum.com, shower, sliding, space, thks, thread, toilet, wall, wondering

Replies: 0
Views: 1,256

Last Post By:: Last Post: 14th April 2009 03:30 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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P Trap looks ugly

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 10th April 2009 11:10 PM

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Replies: 0
Views: 1,164

Last Post By:: Last Post: 10th April 2009 11:10 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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MBI Florence toilet suite any good?

Started by Reno RSS Feed, 9th April 2009 11:00 PM

$137, 4.5/3l, bunnings, ceramic, florence, mbi, read, renovateforum.com, suite, thread, toilet

Replies: 0
Views: 5,332

Last Post By:: Last Post: 9th April 2009 11:00 PM; by Reno RSS Feed

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