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Thread: what nail gun?
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29th January 2008, 02:04 AM #1
what nail gun?
hi were building our first of many houses and wanted to know what nail guns we would need we are getting frames and trusses made but need to nail bearers joists and frames are they all the same gun or are different ones used for different jobs and what brands are the most reliable thx
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29th January 2008, 11:55 AM #2
Hi ... I'll be interested to hear if it is still the first of many after the first one is complete!!
On the gun issue, I think there is probably much talk about that on this sirte already. But I guess the basics are a framing gun for bearers, joists, frames, big stuff, etc ... then a coil gun for cladfding, decking etc ... and a bradder for small architraves and finishing stuff. But this a small list, there are many types in between and the prices may surprise you.
What I did was allocate a sum in my budget for tools, which allowed me to go and purchase what what required as I progressed through the job. Often you will find tools you need that you hadn't even considered at the start, so maybe this is the best way rather than syocking up at the start?
Good luck with it.
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29th January 2008, 12:40 PM #3
angled framing gun.
el cheapo chinese ones are about $150 and will do the job - for fitout a bradder will do fine. sometimes both can be bought in a package. If you dont have compressor already I'd spend a little extra and get an impulse gun - about $600. A good condition paslode either framer or finisher will get 50% of its purchase price on ebay in a cinch - they are easy to sell at the end of the deal.
I went with chinese framer and bradder, coz I already had a compressor, ymmv.
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29th January 2008, 02:10 PM #4
I'm pretty happy with my GMC framer, set me back $199. Last time I looked, Bunnings were selling a Trade-Air (I think) set of guns, a framer, fixer and bradder, for about $200.
I also bought a cheap fixing gun, for skirtings and architraves, off eBay for about $160. So far, neither of the guns have missed a beat (not that I'm a real heavy user)Cheers,
Anthony
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29th January 2008, 02:15 PM #5
I went the other way - bought Senco. Cost an arm and a leg but I figured I wanted them to last.
Bought a framer and a finish nailer - both angled. A coil nailer came in very handy too but I borrowed that from a mate. We used the framer for the walls but the roof and floor frame were pretty much hand nailed. It's a lot easier hopping around on trusses or open joists with a nail bag and hammer than trying to drag a nail gun around with you."I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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29th January 2008, 05:46 PM #6
thanks guys youve all been a great help i like the price of doing it by hand hubby dosnt like the sound of it though lol
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29th January 2008, 08:08 PM #7
Nail guns are great I have several, made me think, how did we ever build anything before nail guns and cordless drills
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29th January 2008, 10:34 PM #8
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30th January 2008, 12:16 PM #9
Much, much, sloooooooowwwerrrr???
Dr - 307.All decks should be stained....black white black white black white.......after all it would match anything!
All roofs should be covered or tiled.....black colorbond, silver mist, black colorbond, silver mist, black colorbond.........after all, we wouldn't want a mismatch!
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30th January 2008, 01:19 PM #10
us old pharts went without nailguns just so we could get RSI
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30th January 2008, 01:47 PM #11
Us younger ones who have everything (as you older ones keep telling us) will still complain about RSI.
We want our nailguns and RSI too.All decks should be stained....black white black white black white.......after all it would match anything!
All roofs should be covered or tiled.....black colorbond, silver mist, black colorbond, silver mist, black colorbond.........after all, we wouldn't want a mismatch!
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30th January 2008, 02:30 PM #12
you guys are so funny its amazing given how far weve come from the good old days of doing everything by hand but ive learnt from this question how modernised i am i honestly thought you had to use a nail gun lol doing it by hand never entered my mind how ridiculous is that and im 42yrs old so just goes to show you how used to doing things the easy way we have become if the old ways dont even enter our minds as a possibility jezz weve got lazy over the decades lol
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31st January 2008, 12:11 AM #13
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31st January 2008, 10:10 AM #14
Plus timber was harder in the old days. I tried to hammer into an old piece of F5 the other day. It was a lot harder than the MGP10 I am used to.
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3rd February 2008, 10:07 AM #15
I have been using the Paslode Impulse internal combustion guns (a large framer and an angled bradder) for years - http://www.paslode.com.au/tooltypes....=7&Button12=Go.
They need good regular maintenance, which is easy and in any case should be done for all tools, and a spare battery for each so you always have a charged one (I got a NMhi higher rated one at half the cost of Paslode branded ).
The convenience of no air compressor and hose is just so good -and in my view will quickly pay for the additional capital cost (they are around $600 each nowadays - I paid more than $1300!).
Nails and gas cartridges are competitive to others, but the ease of use and flexibility is just superb.
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