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31st March 2007, 04:34 PM #1rrich Guest
Was I wrong?
About a year ago, a neighbor asks if I could build some doors for his linen closet.
Sure, no problem, when do you want them.
Well, I'm re-doing the bathroom and when I'm ready I'll let you know.
I look at the linen closet in my home and estimate the materials needed. (One of the advantages of living in a tract home.) Several more conversations over the months, the project is still on.
The neighbor thinks that the vanity is too close for an overlay door.
Hummmmmm... I take a piece of 3/4 ply, put two 35mm overlay hinges on it and have the neighbor test it. Nope, won't work. The doors have to be inset.
OK, let me check on hinges...
A month later, I stop the neighbor's wife as she is driving up the street. I tell her that the hinges are about $15 a pair and that we need 6 pair. "That's only $100. No big deal."
I got the wood (Baltic birch) and the hinges. This week I measured the opening. The doors were made this week and I installed them today.
The neighbor loves the doors, how much??? Well the wood, the hinges, a box of screws and a pack of Blum screw inserts. "Just give SWMBO a check, as she does all the banking." "Cool!"
Now SWMBO I sall bent out of shape. "Nothing for your labor?"
They are neighbors and you can't charge neighbors. Besides, I needed to learn how to install inset doors. Was I wrong?
BTW - The diagram on the hinge package was wrong. The hinges will never clip on if you install the hinges per the instructions. (LOL)
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31st March 2007, 04:55 PM #2
G'day Rich,
I reckon that some jobs should be done at cost.....we call them "love jobs", so you should be in the good books with the neighbours......but not at home??
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31st March 2007, 05:10 PM #3
I figure that doing a good turn for your neighbour is worth the effort. I consider it an investment. There will be many times when you need a hand doing stuff that you need that extra pair of hands.
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31st March 2007, 05:11 PM #4
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31st March 2007, 05:23 PM #5
Where you went wrong is that you didnt sort out the cost or how much you would charge before you started.
But I echo the sentiments of the others about doing a good turn for your neighbour. I cut bits of wood for my neighbour and he keeps giving me bottles of wineIf at first you don't succeed, give something else a go. Life is far too short to waste time trying.
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31st March 2007, 05:23 PM #6
I agree with Grunt. As long as friends, family or immediate neighbours are involved, love jobs are an inescapable fact of life. I do put the foot down at "friends of friends" though.
Instead of trying to make an immediate profit, consider it a long-term investment. For example, you never know when you'll have the need to use the tablesaw in the wee hours of the night... and having a few such investments helps smooth the path.
- Andy Mc
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31st March 2007, 06:01 PM #7
no mate ...you know for next time, tell the mrs that it cost this parts plus my cut equals such and such, when you give her the docket that parts and time for the amount you asked. it saves getting in the
i think you did a generous thing but if you like me anyway you probably be playing with it anyway so why not get costs back so you can spend more
toni
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31st March 2007, 06:36 PM #8
I'll second what the above have said except SWMBO says you're wrong and thus you are it's an inescapable fact of life.
Mick"If you need a machine today and don't buy it,
tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."
- Henry Ford 1938
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31st March 2007, 07:52 PM #9
I have a litany of similar stories where I've done stuff for my neighbour, or given him tools and materials. It's a matter of what sort of relationship you have with them. If they're friends, then the labour's free, and the favour will be returned. I consider my neighbour a friend. I suppose that over time the ledger's in his favour, but I don't care. I can't live in debt to someone, while he's perfectly comfortable with it. It works.
It sounds to me like your SWMBO doesn't have a great relationship with the neighbour. I can understand how she feels if this is the case.
A year ago I was roped into a half day's unpaid work on a precious Sunday by the husband of SWMBO's friend. I was asked to help install an air conditioner in their investment property in Brisbane. I couldn't get out of it because of the complexities of the way I was asked (you know how it works: they did SWMBO a small favour just before they asked) I wasn't happy.
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31st March 2007, 09:43 PM #10
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1st April 2007, 02:10 PM #11
Old philosophy puzzle: If a tree falls in the woods, with no one around to hear, is there any sound?
New philosophy puzzle: If a man says something in the woods, and there's no woman around to hear, is he still wrong?
JoeOf course truth is stranger than fiction.
Fiction has to make sense. - Mark Twain
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2nd April 2007, 11:12 AM #12rrich Guest
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