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Thread: Wills
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30th March 2007, 11:59 PM #1
Wills
talking with the dear one tonite we both realised we dont have a will done for when we go 'over'.
Whats your thoughts of these do it yourself ones or should it be done by a 'Professional" (what)
your humble advise please
TonyI would love to grow my own food, but I can not find bacon seeds
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31st March 2007, 12:06 AM #2
My will is 3 words long
All to Blue (partners nic-name)
I wont be here so I don't really care
and yes...... her's is All to fred.....so we'll see what happens
IMHO go professional100% of all non-smokers die
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31st March 2007, 12:08 AM #3
G'day Tony,
I only have a "will kit" document.........which will suffice......as I have nothing material to leave. ( 4 children, eight grandies) Situation might be different if there are real assets involved.
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31st March 2007, 12:17 AM #4
Tonto,
Go with a solicitor, for the few dollars a basic will costs its really not a big deal. There are to many who stuff up the will kit with basic errors such as the people they use to witness a signature, and divisions of assets that leave the will open to challenge or leave unintended tax or benefit outcomes. The notion that the worst legal eagle a solicitor can use is himself applies to everyone because we are unable to step back and see our own affairs with an open mind.
But if you go with a will kit get it right because after you are gone you can't fix up the mistakes no mater how unintended they are.
John.
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31st March 2007, 08:24 AM #5
Check the Public Notices in news papers which sometimes advertise "Will" making courses. Depending on how intricate you will be in leaving the parts of your estate is the need for legal advise.
Even simple sounding Wills can be misinterpreted. Remember the Probate Court will/may be required to determine what you wanted done. The number of bequests you make may cause difficulty, particularly if your estate changes between now and then.
No matter how you write it any Will can be challenged, so the best you can do is seek professional help, but don't accept without careful consideration the advice you do receive. Remember to remember the Will each (say) year if circumstances change.
soth
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31st March 2007, 09:19 AM #6
Pauline and I both have wills, enduring power of attorney's and medical power of attorney's. All done properly through a solicitor. From what I've seen, this seems to be about the only way to guarantee you might get what you've asked for .
Try running a business or for that matter a household if your partner dies unexpectidly and all the bank accounts are frozen and the govt steps in to carve up the estate as they think fit. Forget it.Have seen too many lives almost destroyed by people going without a will.
And don't entrust the handling your estate to the government type Trustee bodies. Have had a really good read of their fine print and it ain't pretty what they can do with your estate folks.
Also worth looking into prepaid funerals, there can save you or your family thousands of $'s and a lot of anguish etc down the track.
Cheers - Neil
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31st March 2007, 09:23 AM #7
I have a testamentary trust will. It's something to do with capital gains I think. I just leave that stuff to the people who know.
Don't let the governmemts tell you they don't have death duties any more. They do, except they are now in the form of capital gains taxes.
Also, as Neil said, enduring POA and importantly, a medical POA are very important. If you end up in hospital, your partner can make medical decisions as necessary.If at first you don't succeed, give something else a go. Life is far too short to waste time trying.
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31st March 2007, 10:20 AM #8
The same as ubeaut.
The power of attorney's are very important as it gives one party the right to keep thing going whilst the other can't.
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31st March 2007, 12:43 PM #9
Gumby are you saying if you dont have a medical POA the doctors can override your and your parttners decision esp. in the case of say life support machines and pain killing drugs?
TonyI would love to grow my own food, but I can not find bacon seeds
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31st March 2007, 12:45 PM #10
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31st March 2007, 01:00 PM #11
Yes! Medical a POA can be vetoed by NOK. My son knows of, and agrees to the conditions specified in my POA, ordinarily doctors will not veto if the POA is properly made - give a copy to your GP.
Equally important, is to give a copy of your (other type) POA to your bank, it make procedures so much easier for your NOK, and the bank.
soth
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31st March 2007, 02:31 PM #12Pauline and I both have wills, enduring power of attorney's and medical power of attorney's. All done properly through a solicitor. From what I've seen, this seems to be about the only way to guarantee you might get what you've asked for .
My missus has Enduring POA and Medical POA and a copy of a will done by a solicitor.... it is the only way to make sure that the lawyers/trustees don't make off with most of your assets, or hand your next of kin a fat bill.
Its not like I have many assets to get rid of, but its the only way to ensure that you minimise the costs of settling your estate, and that there is no confusion as to who gets what.
Doing it yourself is a good way to leave openings for dispute.
Its a small cost for saving your loved ones a lot of additional heartache during an already difficult time.
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31st March 2007, 02:36 PM #13
Get a solicitor to to do it properly, even if you don't have much you don't want to leave a bunch of grief for your family or others to sort out on top of your going over.
Do what Ubeaut suggests and cover yourselves properlyDavid L
One of the great crowd beyond the bloom of youth on the Sunshine Coast
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31st March 2007, 05:11 PM #14
I second, third and fourth all of above.
A few years ago I saw what a mess was made of a self written will - it was still being sorted out years later and there was not a lot of value in it.Tom
"It's good enough" is low aim
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31st March 2007, 06:17 PM #15
Look at it this way. The less you have and the simpler the well, the less time it will take for the solicitor to draw it up and the less he will charge you. The further you get away from 'stuff all to leave' and 'no-one to leave it to', the more you need the professional advice of a solicitor.
Besides, wills are dirt cheap. This whole nonsense of doing it yourself is false economy ... and if yours wasn't cheap, you've either got too much money or you're seeing the wrong lawyer. For a modest sum, I've got a professionally done will, it's safe in his keeping and will be executed by a professional (him) and I don't have to worry about what happens if I park my bike in front of something very big and very fast.
Richard
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