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3rd January 2006, 10:58 AM #1
Firefighters
If you are one or you know someone who is one, please thank them for me. They are the real heroes in the community and who knows I might need them one day.
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3rd January 2006, 02:59 PM #2
Simple. Donate to your local brigade.
If you live in a city, adopt a rural brigade and donate to them.
It cost these guys & gals a lot in time and money.
At least help them to have good equipment.
ps My adopted brigade is Shannons Flat.
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3rd January 2006, 03:06 PM #3
I've been tossing up on whether to join the RFS or the SES later this year when the house is finished. I want to join one of them. A mate is a coordinator for the SES and he wants me to join them. Not sure I want to pull dead people out of cars though. Plus if I was at the scene of an accident like the one I was at in Canberra the other day, I'd be tempted to leave him in the car and set fire to it. They do search and rescue as well, which is more up my alley.
I reckon the best way to show gratitude is to sign up and do your bit if you're able."I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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3rd January 2006, 03:13 PM #4
I did three years with CF&L, went to numerous fires from about two square feet to several km fronts.
Not pleasant and I've had enough, leave it to someone else now.
I found CF&L to be the most incompetent firefighting outfit that God ever put breath into, they created more fires than they put out, the last example was Wilsons Prom...................albeit about 30 name changes later.Stupidity kills. Absolute stupidity kills absolutely.
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3rd January 2006, 03:40 PM #5
I'm with the Cabarlah RFB, and luckily its been quiet lately. A couple of years ago we were in a big one down the range at Murphy's Creek, hot and scary, but satisfying too.
I don't know about other states, but the training here seems more focused towards admin, organization structure and legalities, rather than hands-on firefighting:confused: .
One good thing about cruising around on firetrucks with the older blokes is getting to know the country, bush tracks etc, and where certain vegetation is (did I say timber??! ).
Cheers,Andy Mac
Change is inevitable, growth is optional.
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3rd January 2006, 03:48 PM #6where certain vegetation is
I would not have liked to have been in the RFS on Sunday. There was a fire in the scrub around one of the Merimbula caravan parks early afternoon and it threatened a few houses. Started just as that hot North Westerly came through. Stinking hot day and hung over - not a great day to be fighting a fire. We could see the flames from the other side of the bay - about 7km away - so it would have been a hot one."I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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3rd January 2006, 05:00 PM #7Originally Posted by Andy Mac
On a more serious note, I'm thinking of volunteering as a support person, one of the many, quiet behind-the-scenes people who helps those who have been evacuated - hold their hand, arm round shoulder, shoulder to cry on, endless supply of tissues, a friendly smile, some bad humour... sandwiches, drinks, etc etc. I can't physically fight a fire, but the rest of the above I can do. [sorry, have to qualify this - if Toowoomba and area gets hit by bushfires again]
cheers
Wendy
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3rd January 2006, 05:32 PM #8
On Ya Wendy,
It's the Support people who do a lot of work, also;
and get near NO acknowledgment.
One thing which rubs me the wrong way
[I know what I mean, you think what you like you lot ]
is the Companies which will not allow their People to go do their FireFighting duties,
for threat of loosing their Employment.Navvi
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3rd January 2006, 06:30 PM #9
Forgive the pun Wendy, but you still burn out after a while and your attitude becomes 'stuff it, someone elses turn'.
Ingested far too much smoke and dodged too many widow makers at night, 3 years was long enough for this little black duck.Stupidity kills. Absolute stupidity kills absolutely.
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3rd January 2006, 07:22 PM #10Originally Posted by Wongo
I recall when I first arrived in Australia in mid November '93, and seeing the smoke from the bushfires around Sydney (I had a rented penthouse apartment at the top end of Goulbern St, so could see right around)
The parade held in honour of the "fireies" through George St was quite amazing.
These boys 'n gals deserve all the help and support that they (generally do) get. As to the mongrels that deliberately light fires, well...
Cheers!
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3rd January 2006, 10:17 PM #11
I'm in my local RFS. Haven't been as active as I like to be lately, despite the heat wave.
I find it hard myself comprehending the vast amount of time my mates put into it. Training, preparation etc. Cause, the great majority of us arn't paid.
I joined partly because a mate of mine was in,,,,he was very persistant, and I did like the idea of helping out in one of the few ways I new I could.
Now, I'm kind of regreting it, cause, I'm finding it hard to find the time necessary to keep myself in tune with the job. uno,,,,I don't want to go out to a fire and be a burden, just because I don't train enough..... but at the same time, I'm no quiter.
....eg. " Jake !...get the Suction hose for the cat 7, quick ".... only to find myself looking like a complete wally cause I can't remember where that is...
Thats the biggest problem with volinteer work. And one of the most frustrating things for the more dedicated firefighters as well,,,who often are ex-military.. :eek: Well, its true. At least around here.
But, there is no-body else to do the job. No pay, means a lot of volenteers, but few who actually turn up to fires. Usually only a handful of blokes actually do most of the work, I've noticed. A lot of people talk like their going to join, but really don't end up even trying once they realise whats involved.
Bit sad. But an unfortunete reality. I have to find time for paid work first, then my family, then maybe for firefighting. Be a different story if I got some pay for it. Just a little something be nice.
Also, something to remember, a lot of these guys don't do it JUST for uno,,,, " Like to help out the community "..... they do it cause they like the adrenilin rush.....flying off in a rush to a danger spot. Not knowing what to expect, all dressed in emergency clothes. It can be a thrill. I'm a bit over it personally. Especially when I'm in the passenger seat, next to one like this, whose driving like a complete maniac to get to a fire..... Ex-sargent. I've got better places to be. Won't ever forget that night.
Then, there's also the dangers of course. Firefighters are injured or killed much less than one might think. But still...... Only recently I was backburning with my unit in some scrub and a tree suddenly fell. Luckly I saw it out of the corner of my eye and sidestepped it at the last second, else it would have messed me up badly. Spooked me a bit, cause no other trees falling anywhere...and with little warning. Sort of like it wanted to get me
Something to remember though, to those who are thinking of joining. There are only so many hours in the day. To do it properly you really gota put a lot of time behind it. Despite the adrenilin rushes, a lot of the time you arn't doing anything special as well. Blacking out,,,,digging back. Sitting around doing nothing, waiting for instructions. Hot, dry, sweaty, tiring. .......But, hosing down the Captains always fun....and he loves it so much........' Jake, hit that stump (blast it with the hose).....JAKE !!! ...HIT THAT STUMP !!!!.....WHAT ! (as I turn my whole body around facing him, in doing so hosing him down) ...oh, oh Sorry !! (lots of fun )
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4th January 2006, 04:54 AM #12
Scott,
thanks Brother. and thanks also to the cops. they have a thankless job, and yet continue to do great work. thanks DanP!
there's no school like the old school.
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4th January 2006, 06:39 AM #13Originally Posted by apricotripperStupidity kills. Absolute stupidity kills absolutely.
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4th January 2006, 10:55 AM #14
Iain - very good point and the pun, I think, was perfect. I know , well I think I know what I can do and give and if I can, I'd like to. Have to put a time limit on it though so I don't burn out and also have a good girlfriend network ready for debriefing and relaxing afterwards.
Well said ApricotTripper!
cheers
RR
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4th January 2006, 11:01 AM #15
I spent 3 years with the department trainer training and trauma debriefing but as an active employee (with the Government, oxymoron, active employee) I was required to be a 'prescribed firefighter'.
Sod all training and just sent to the front with little back up and a rake hoe.
There were quite a few injuries and they could never quite work out why.
CFA used to give us strange looks and until more recently I never knew why.Stupidity kills. Absolute stupidity kills absolutely.
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