Another question about lifting items

[Arron]

In a week or two we will be having two split system air conditioners fitted. One is 8hp and the other is 5hp, so they are both large units. The outdoor units will be lifted onto brackets at the rear of the house, 3 meters off the ground. I had assumed that the air conditioning installer would handle this, but I’m now thinking maybe he will be expecting me to arrange for them to be lifted up. If he does, I’ll have no idea how to arrange it. I’ll know for sure what he is expecting when he rings me in a day or two, but I’d like to have a bit more background before we discuss it.

So my question is - how best to lift a large unit 3 meters off the ground, with no vehicular access and no winch point above the location? How is this usually done ?

Cheers
Arron

[rwbuild]

I assume that he quoted supply and install, his problem unless he specifically stated in the quote that you had to supply said means to lift.

[Camelot]

Try hiring a Genie

https://www.workingatheightltd.com/f...spec-sheet.pdf

[pippin88]

Installers issue unless quote has something specific about it.

[Arron]

Installers issue unless quote has something specific about it.

Maybe, but I would still like to know how it is usually done. Let’s just say I am a person who likes to be prepared.

[Handyjack]

One of the people I work with is an air conditioner repairer and installer. If he needs to lift an outdoor unit up high he borrows a hoist. The base is like a tripod and it has an electric motor to lift the unit up. I have seen it used to lift a unit up for mounting on a roof.

Like rwbuild said, "I assume that he quoted supply and install, his problem unless ..."
Did they do a site inspection first so they know of any possible issues? I am sure that they have had these installations in the past.

I know from my own experience the installer visited the site so they know what material they need and also how they are going to do the plumbing and the electrical.

[Arron]

One of the people I work with is an air conditioner repairer and installer. If he needs to lift an outdoor unit up high he borrows a hoist. The base is like a tripod and it has an electric motor to lift the unit up. I have seen it used to lift a unit up for mounting on a roof.

Like rwbuild said, "I assume that he quoted supply and install, his problem unless ..."
Did they do a site inspection first so they know of any possible issues? I am sure that they have had these installations in the past.

I know from my own experience the installer visited the site so they know what material they need and also how they are going to do the plumbing and the electrical.

Yep, thanks.
He has seen the site, in fact he has already done the rough-in.

It seems I need to explain why I am asking this question. The statement that it is the installers problem is generally true but not always. This guy is a licensed installer but we have an arrangement which has seen us through a number of installations and in fact these current two and two more after that. I do whatever ‘mechanical” work is required and he does his technical stuff. It benefits both parties because I get a low price and he makes more then he would on an average job because he isn’t doing the low-skill grunt work. Obviously I’m retired, and dont mind doing this sort of thing so am not valuing my time. It’s not an unusual arrangement and it works well but what doesn’t work is when the installer thinks he’s talking to an ignoramous and having to explain every tiny detail. Hence I try to get whatever background information I can before we discuss the job. Now I can ask him if he’ll bring a lift and if not I’ll offer to do it but at least I know what I’m up for - local hire shop will have something and I will need to take care of the very soft ground.

Thanks for your input and the information about hoists. This might seem obvious to you guys but seriously I had no idea how one would do this.