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    Default NC finish on kids toys?





    I've got to finish some toys I'm midway through, but finishing has become a constant battle that I face and somewhat dread nowadays.
    The toys with the holes in them will ultimately end up as teething rings (I'll round over the edges!) So NC isn't my first choice, but I LOVE the end result. (Bar setting up the chemicals and face mask!)
    Previously I have used traditional wax as its food safe but no matter how much I try I can not seem to get a finish without some sort of cloudiness in it. Ive tried minimising the amount I apply, hard buffing, no buffing, swansdown mop, and heating the wax, but on the right (or wrong..?) angle I can see excess wax or cloudiness. Its annoying (but probably my technique)
    Now its going to end up in a kids gob so I guess it isn't HUGELY important but I'd like to finish off as best I can. From my understanding once the solvent has flashed off, this finish should be safe, but I wanted to all before I fired up the compressor and went spraying like a mad man....

    Any other suggestions are welcome.
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    May daughter made some teething rings from Rock Maple and we did some research to find that Virgin Coconut Oil was the recommendation...

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    Soak it in food grade mineral oil?

    You can buy it all over the place - I picked up some at a Swedish furniture place for $10/500mL.

    After that, there'll always be some debate as to what is acceptable as food grade or not. I believe that Livos make something that may fit your bill or Organoil HBO - as you say, once cured they generally claim that they're safe for consumption. For little kids (rightly so), most people err on the side of caution and go with stuff you can actually eat in raw form without ill effect. Hence, mineral oil, beeswax, etc.

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    i'll offer two ways. Both work.
    1. The Robson Valley method. Soak in your oil of choice, i use a mineral oil with a touch of orange oil in it, smells nice. bake in a 130C oven for 3 min, no more.

    2. Feast Watsons Fine Buffing oil. Put things in a container, add a little oil, put the lid on and shake the hell out of it. Rest for 5 min and shake again. Repeat till the 20 min window they speak of on the can. Open container and remove each piece and hang it on a rack. You may need to wipe off the excess from each. Allow to dry and repeat. (use 1/2 the quantity of oil the second time round)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enfield Guy View Post
    2. Feast Watsons Fine Buffing oil. Put things in a container, add a little oil, put the lid on and shake the hell out of it. Rest for 5 min and shake again. Repeat till the 20 min window they speak of on the can. Open container and remove each piece and hang it on a rack. You may need to wipe off the excess from each. Allow to dry and repeat. (use 1/2 the quantity of oil the second time round)
    I'm surprised that anything like FW Fine Buffing Oil is food safe. You only have to smell it to realise it's full of volatile's, and it is a turps clean up. The current MSDS makes no mention of whether it's food safe after final finishing, but just reading the composition on the second page would be enough to put me off using it on anything likely to be chewed by a baby.

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    Thanks all,

    I ended up using ubeut mineral oil. A little flatter than my preference but hey it’s a teething ring and will be chomped on!
    Happy with the results.

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    If you sell the products you need to ensure you are aware of the coating. Orange oil can be a sensitiser to many as are oils from nuts like tung oil. Your teething rings look lovely and if there is a next time, have a look at https://www.miltonashby.com.au/0-1-years/ They use the Livos oil, that is the Kunos natural oil sealer, certified food an toy safe.
    Livos Australia

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    Aldav

    My understanding is all commercial finishes are “food safe” once fully cured. You could apply a similar methodology to the benevolent dictators product as well.
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