v8 supercars

[fubar]

Anybody else catch the news nissan have joined up with kelly racing for 2013 season

[Avery]

I heard that earlier today. What are they going to run? They don't sell a V8 in Australia and I don't think they have a rear drive platform other than the Patrol, Pathfinder or Navara. Or is it just a sponsorship deal? That would be strange - Nissan sponsoring a Holden. Then again, GM own a fair piece of Nissan.

[_fly_]

What makes you think there is a difference between the ford and the holden. They are ALL the same underneath, Its only the shell over the top thats different. They aren't ford engines in fords and holden engines in holdens. The cars are build by other people ie stone bros, perkins garage etc.

[A Duke]

How does a V8 Nissan Cedric grip you?

[Scott]

It's a stand alone Nissan model yet to be announced. Details, click the following link:

OFFICIAL: Nissan To Join V8 Supercars Championship

[artme]

How does a V8 Nissan Cedric grip you?

With about the same feverish excitement as a V8 Gloria!!

[Geoff Dean]

What makes you think there is a difference between the ford and the holden. They are ALL the same underneath, Its only the shell over the top thats different. They aren't ford engines in fords and holden engines in holdens. The cars are build by other people ie stone bros, perkins garage etc.

That is not quite correct. They do run Ford engines in Fords and likewise for the Holden (albeit a chev engine). They do have a lot of common parts like gearboxes, diffs and suspensions.

From 2013 V8 Suoercars will being running what is known as Car Of The Future (COTF)

It will be a space frame chassis manufactured to the same specification for all models onto which various manufacturers body panels will attached. To be eligible the manufacturer must have a rear wheel drive, four door model. If that model does not have a V8 engine, you can choose either the Ford or Chev engine and it will be badged and run as a VESA (V8 Supercars Australia) engine.

The whole concept is very similar to America's NASCAR.

Some of the reasons for going down this path included the expense of developing road cars into race cars, the fact that they used many control parts that were not found on road going cars, and to open the category up to other manufacturers.

[_fly_]

That is not quite correct. They do run Ford engines in Fords and likewise for the Holden (albeit a chev engine). They do have a lot of common parts like gearboxes, diffs and suspensions.

From 2013 V8 Suoercars will being running what is known as Car Of The Future (COTF)

It will be a space frame chassis manufactured to the same specification for all models onto which various manufacturers body panels will attached. To be eligible the manufacturer must have a rear wheel drive, four door model. If that model does not have a V8 engine, you can choose either the Ford or Chev engine and it will be badged and run as a VESA (V8 Supercars Australia) engine.

The whole concept is very similar to America's NASCAR.

Some of the reasons for going down this path included the expense of developing road cars into race cars, the fact that they used many control parts that were not found on road going cars, and to open the category up to other manufacturers.

Thats my point, I don't know why people are Red or Blue anymore. Its not like it was in the late 70's and early 80's where "my car maker is better than your car maker". Its time to swap from supporting the manufacturers and start supporting the drivers instead. I hated lownes for swapping back and forward. I didn't care who he was driving for, No loyalty was the issue. But I guess thats all gone anyway now. I suppose the kelly's going to nissan will be the start of the red/blue war finishing.

[Jim Carroll]

Thats my point, I don't know why people are Red or Blue anymore. Its not like it was in the late 70's and early 80's where "my car maker is better than your car maker". Its time to swap from supporting the manufacturers and start supporting the drivers instead. I hated lownes for swapping back and forward. I didn't care who he was driving for, No loyalty was the issue. But I guess thats all gone anyway now. I suppose the kelly's going to nissan will be the start of the red/blue war finishing.

The RED/BLUE war will never finish.

It does not matter much what is under the car but the logo on the front that is what true rev heads believe.

For me it is going to be a hard change love my holdens and Jack Daniels

[Yonnee]

Once a Holden man, always a Holden man!
And it's the same for any Blue Oval fan too.

Sadly, gone are the days of "Win on Sunday, sell on Monday". These days it's run as a mulit-million dollar business, and nothing more. Everything is geared towards sponsorship dollars and the marketing campaign that goes with it. There is no brand loyalty for drivers anymore, it's all about who's providing the next biggest pay check.

[nrb]

I heard that Chrysler 300C will be racing,will that be under the new 2013 format?

[Geoff Dean]

I hated lownes for swapping back and forward. I didn't care who he was driving for, No loyalty was the issue.

How do you figure no Loyalty? He has a contract to drive for team X. They switch equipment halfway through that contract, Lowndes has no choice.

The loyalty thing is a huge crock of doo doo. The driver is employed to do a job.

Have you never switched jobs in your life to better either your salary or work conditions. Going by your values that would make you disloyal as well.

[Geoff Dean]

I heard that Chrysler 300C will be racing,will that be under the new 2013 format?

If they come in, and it all points towards Garry Rogers Motorsport, then yes, it will be 2013.

[Geoff Dean]

The RED/BLUE war will never finish.

It does not matter much what is under the car but the logo on the front that is what true rev heads believe.

For me it is going to be a hard change love my holdens and Jack Daniels

True, and it was like xmas, birthday and easter all rolled into one for me when Jim Bean started sponsoring Dick Johnson Racing.

All they now need is for Marcos Ambrose to come home and drive for them and I will be in heaven.

[Geoff Dean]

There is no brand loyalty for drivers anymore, it's all about who's providing the next biggest pay check.

Why is it that racing car drivers and footballers are always branded as disloyal or traitors if they move to another brand/team. It is only employment for them and if they are out of contract and can get a better $ elsewhere they would be stupid to pass it by.

They have a very small window of opportunity to make the big bucks, and there are only so many media jobs for broken down or retired sports people, so they have to take it when they can.

I would hate to see the best players from Collingwood end up at GWS, but if they go, so be it.