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    there seems to be a great diveristy of information about this issue covering every angle possible, whether anyone agrees , disagrees or is bored with the GW issue, its becoming bigger than Ben Hur..

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...080901857.html
    Did Global Warming Cause NYC Tornado?

    By DAVID B. CARUSO
    The Associated Press
    Thursday, August 9, 2007; 7:30 PM

    NEW YORK -- Flooded subways? A tornado in Brooklyn? It was tempting to blame it all on global warming.

    Plenty of public officials were doing just that in the aftermath of a short but violent thunderstorm that paralyzed the nation's largest mass transit network and tore the roofs off limestone townhouses. But in reality, it is not quite that simple, weather and climate experts say.
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    Taking note of global warming
    Published on: 8/9/07.

    IN RECENT TIMES there have been significant variations of weather patterns across the globe and it has spurred serious consideration to a review of global warming. Only recently both Britain and the United States observed very unusual flooding.

    Last week, South Asia got its worst monsoon-triggered flooding in decades, with about 28 million people being displaced in India, Nepal, and Bangladesh. There are about 1 900 deaths so far and many homes and farmlands have been submerged.

    According to the United Nations (UN) weather agency, many parts of the world have been experiencing record extreme weather conditions, including unusual floods, heatwaves, storms, and cold snaps since the beginning of the year.

    Barbados has also been observing a consistently marginal increase in daily temperatures to around 31 degrees Celsius. So much so that many people have been complaining about the heat.
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    Confirming Limbaugh's Prediction, CBS Ignores Study Casting Doubt on Global Warming
    By Brent Baker | August 9, 2007 - 21:06 ET

    Two nights after NBC blamed hot summer temperatures on global warming, and on the very day a new scientific report cast doubt on a key assumption behind global warming forecasts, CBS on Thursday evening held global warming culpable for “oppressive August heat” that killed a man in East St. Louis. For an expert assessment, CBS reporter Kelly Cobiella turned only to the Weather Channel climatologist who last year suggested the American Meteorological Society should withhold credentials from any member who dares doubt the man-made global warming mantra: “Dr. Heidi Cullen is a climatologist for the Weather Channel, and sees a definite connection to global warming.” Cullen maintained: “The heat wave that we're seeing now is completely consistent with what we expect in a warmer world because all of our models show us that heat waves will become intense, more frequent, and they'll last longer.”

    The CBS Evening News skipped, as Rush Limbuagh predicted the media would, a new study in which, as outlined in a press release, “the widely accepted (albeit unproven) theory that manmade global warming will accelerate itself by creating more heat-trapping clouds is challenged this month in new research from the University of Alabama in Huntsville.” The posting on the university's site summarized the study published in a scientific journal: “Instead of creating more clouds, individual tropical warming cycles that served as proxies for global warming saw a decrease in the coverage of heat-trapping cirrus clouds, says Dr. Roy Spencer, a principal research scientist in UAHuntsville's Earth System Science Center.”
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    Global Warming Coordinated?
    Thursday, August 09, 2007 - FreeMarketNews.com

    As NewsBusters reported Sunday, Newsweek's current issue featured a cover story blasting anthropogenic global warming skeptics as "deniers," and pointing fingers at companies like ExxonMobil as participating in a coordinated misinformation campaign akin to the tobacco industry misleading citizens about the dangers of cigarette smoking. Shortly after this new issue hit the stands, Al Gore told a forum in Singapore, "the deniers offered a bounty of $10,000 for each article disputing the consensus that people could crank out and get published somewhere." This raises an interesting question: Is this a coordinated attack designed to incite anger in citizens that polls show are not as upset about this issue as the left and their media minions?
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/mai.../eaclim109.xml
    Global warming forecast predicts rise in 2014

    By Roger Highfield, Science Editor
    Last Updated: 7:01pm BST 09/08/2007

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    Here is the climate forecast for the next decade; although global warming will be held in check for a few years, it will come roaring back to send the mercury rising before 2014.

    The overall trend in warming is driven by greenhouse gas emissions
    Overall warming trend is driven by greenhouse gas emissions

    This is the prediction of the first computer model of the global climate designed to make forecasts over a timescale of around a decade, developed by scientists at the Met Office.

    The new model developed at the Met's Hadley Centre in Exeter, and described in the journal Science, predicts that warming will slow during the next few years but then speed up again, and that at least half of the years after 2009 will be warmer than 1998, the warmest year on record.

    Over the 10-year period as a whole, climate continues to warm and 2014 is likely to be 0.3 deg C warmer than 2004.
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    Newsweek Takes On Global Warming "Deniers"
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    By Kelli Best-Oliver Aug 9, 2007

    Imagine my shock when I opened my mailbox to find the latest issue of Newsweek sporting a fire-glowing orb and the headline "Global Warming is a Hoax.*" It's hard to believe (particularly for the GO family) that there are still people who deny that climate change is happening and caused by humans. With the influx of pro-green exposure in the media, many greens saw this past year as the tipping point in awareness and activism on global warming. Yet, "deniers" still exist, and Newsweek's cover story (complete with tongue-in-cheek headline) aims to track the foundations of the denial movement, the major players behind it, and the motivations behind the well-coordinated effort to keep the American public doubting that global warming is real. (That asterisk? It noted "Or so claim well-funded naysayers who still reject the overwhelming evidence of climate change.")
    http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...000117,00.html
    Global warming critic hot under the collar

    Andrew Bolt

    August 10, 2007 12:00am

    I AGREE completely with global warming alarmist Robyn Williams.

    The ABC would indeed be "verging on the irresponsible" to air something "demonstrably wrong".

    And so the ABC should get a new host for its Science Show, if Demonstrably Wrong Williams won't correct himself.

    Of course, Williams wasn't asking for the sack when he told the ABC to keep the fact-challenged off the air.

    He was just telling the ABC to scrap a documentary in which climate experts said global warming wasn't man-made.

    But I see Williams now devotes a page of Cosmos to explain why he told a "notorious newspaper columnist" that global warming could make the seas rise 100m by 2100.

    Williams is cross that I've since publicised that absurd claim. But facts are facts: Even the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change - the temple of global warming activists - predicts the seas will rise at most by 59cm.
    http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinio...530610628.html
    Global warming — the new way to turn relationships cold

    Richard Glover
    August 11, 2007

    'WOMEN feel the cold more than men. It's a biological fact." Jocasta is standing in the middle of the kitchen, first thing in the morning, giving me a glacial stare. She wants to know who turned off the heater before we went to bed.

    "Studies have proved" — she spits the words out as if trying to warm up her own lips — "that women feel 3.74 degrees colder than men. It's all to do with protecting our babies in the womb."

    Where does Jocasta get these studies? Why do they always have figures exact to the second decimal place? And how come they always seem to involve the womb? I amble over to the heater and switch it on.

    Jocasta stands over the thing, rubbing her hands together, her breath coming out in little puffs of vapour. "So," she says, "who, exactly, appointed you as Minister for Energy for this family?"

    From my position on the other side of the kitchen bench, I sniff haughtily. "We must all do our bit for global warming. We must all reduce our carbon footprint."
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    Some of it has to be true, but I think some of it is also being generalised, blown out of proportion, or just not enough science to back up the claims.

    What about the effect that the reversing of the earth's magnetic field that seems to be going on these days is having (albeit slowly)? Perhaps this is having some influence on something?

    All I can say is bring some of that flood rain to SE QLD!
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    [quote=reeves;564061]there seems to be a great diveristy of information about this issue covering every angle possible, whether anyone agrees , disagrees or is bored with the GW issue, its becoming bigger than Ben Hur..

    I agree Reeves, overload of opinion after years of paucity for all of those not involved in environmental issues. The issue was part of my Environmental Masters, the science stacks up from what Ive read. Contrarian positions are rarely peer reviewed or published in the scientific literature. Incidentally the religious right appear to be the great promoters of contrarian positions from what Ive read. The great doomseday cult called Christianity in action.

    At least its getting some air space so future generations have an "I told you so" somewhere in the records.

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    I'm old enough to remember the great "New Ice Age" debate in the 70s.

    Old enough and cynical enough to take it all with a grain of salt

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    One thing is certain though. Peak oil is coming soon and unless we can find some new technology, we're going to have to start using a lot less energy.
    With current technology, renewables can't possibly cope with the ever increasing demand, and coal is just too dirty.
    ATM (unless they can crack fusion) nuclear is the only thing that looks viable, and we're going to have to start driving electric, rechargeable cars. We'll have to be satisfied with a lot less horespower in the not too distant future I'd say.

    The energy that has been stored up in fossil fuels over millions of years is being used up now at a staggering rate. If you jumped on a pushbike with a generator attached, pedaling at a constant 1/4 horsepower, you'd be lucky to power your PC and a light bulb.

    We take our cars, and all of our appliances for granted, but it won't be so cheap in future.


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    It's all about dollar bills !
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    l have found a expert that said the sky is falling down

    smile and the world will smile with you

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    In the world's first near-term global warming forecast, British climate scientists say the planet's temperature will plateau for two years and then rise ...


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    Blogger Finds Bug in NASA Global Warming Study?
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    Cloudy forecast for global warming
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    'Global warming can reduce agri-production by 25 pc'
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    11 (PTI): Soil erosion and drying of rivers resulting from global warming can reduce agricultural production by nearly 25 per cent, a conservation expert ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPIRIT View Post
    l have found a expert that said the sky is falling down
    Unfortunately it is a bit like that, This is a long term problem that will creep up slowly. The full effects can not be predicted, maybe very little, maybe catastrophic. Interestingly adaptation rather than sustainability was become the catchphrase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Shed View Post

    Old enough and cynical enough to take it all with a grain of salt
    Just as long as you dont get the salt near any ice or else it will melt it.

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    It's ironic that billions of years ago, life on Earth was almost destroyed by the 'poisonous' gas oxygen, which stripped the earth of its greenhouse producing methane, and plunged the earth into an ice age. Ice at the equator was a mile thick.

    "Indeed it seems that life on Earth was spared by a very tiny margin."

    How Bacteria Nearly Destroyed All Life


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    Interesting viewpoint presented by Nigel Calder on the science show on the weekend. He reckons that the scientific establishment prevents many opposing viewpoints from being heard because it relies so much on funding from government grants. There is a lot of money in climate science at the moment.

    No-one can say for certain that climate change is being caused by humans. No-one can say for certain that we can stop it or have any affect at all. I think there are good reasons for becoming energy efficient, but to think that we can actaully stop any of these things from happening is a bit of a stretch.

    People are being sold 'energy efficient' technology on the basis that it will stop global warming. I think that is wrong, manufacturers are just cashing in on it. I heard an ad on the radio this morning that was along the lines of "the world is warming up, no more polar ice; the seas are warming, no more coral reefs - but you can stop it." I don't think there's any evidence that we can and it's bollocks to put it that way.
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    I say as long as we do as the chap upstairs says in that handy little manual he gave us that we really don't need to worry about any of this. I also say that if we had been better stewards of the earth that we were given like it says we are to be in the handy dandy manual he gave us, then if we really are responsible for all this mess it would have never came about. I also say that he has everything all planned out and a demolition date all set up for the earth anyway, so why are we worrying?

    We should be focusing on being the best people we can and living life to the best of our ability and helping people around us, so that when that demolition date comes up we won't be scheduled for destruction ourselves to make room for the new beautification project.

    (that said I'm the first to admit I'm a mess and no example by any means, and if the date is anytime soon I'm going to be squished like a bug )
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentC View Post
    People are being sold 'energy efficient' technology on the basis that it will stop global warming. I think that is wrong, manufacturers are just cashing in on it. I heard an ad on the radio this morning that was along the lines of "the world is warming up, no more polar ice; the seas are warming, no more coral reefs - but you can stop it." I don't think there's any evidence that we can and it's bollocks to put it that way.
    Spot on C, doesnt mean we dont need to get more efficient, we do, just the misleading nature of the spin at the moment is driving unnecessary panic.

    Matt, as I said, the worlds largest Doomesday cult, unfortunately history is full of end of the world predictions and each generation is vain enough to believe that they are the lucky ones. But there is always a tomorrow for someone. I totally agree about the need for ethical living, humanity is its own worst enemy.

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    I say as long as we do as the chap upstairs says in that handy little manual he gave us etc etc etc
    You are kidding I hope.
    "I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."

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