Rose given methodone, not cough medicine

[Iain]

Having spent several years in gaol ( ) it is innevitable that when one of these 'people' arrive the criminals own code of conduct emerges, call it honour amongst thieves if you will.
Protective custody is applied for a time but they are extremely patient.

[Ivan in Oz]

Wondering what we could have done to help if we had been near... wondering if we would have had the guts to step in and do something even if we were near enough... wondering if publicising this will help other people not make the same mistake.....

RR
(very saddened by hearing this [edit] news report not what has been said by other members]

RR,
Saw this.
Unfortunately SO many People do not have the Ba...??? Guts [ Sorry Intestinal Fortitude] to speak up, let along do anything.
I'm on 'NOTICE' [Read ..... in trouble] at work because of a Hygiene "issue" I spoke up about.
The way different Cultures use 'our' toilet seats...............and what is left for others to clean up :mad: :mad:
What is Management going to do?
A Cultural Induction on Australian ways of life. Huh! :eek: :eek:

I've done a Suicide Prevention Course and used it, Quite Gut wrenching.
Off topic, any good 'Woodworking' groups in the Toowoomba area?
I'm a bit West of there
and a bit lost with some timberwork......
Have a look at my Signature, that's where I work,....I mean where I am Employed.

[Gingermick]

Yes, manslaughter would make more sense..

Diamatapp is red I think and methadone looks like congealed urine. It also smells funny. I dont think someone could be that stupid. Cough medicine bottle on a fridge full of methadone could only be mistaken for cough medicine by kids or maybe people who had no idea that it was in the house.
The more I think about it the more I want to string them up.
And I'm a bleedin heart generally.

making others suffer due to their selfish self inflicted habit..

How are all the people who gave up the cancer sticks going anyhow.

But they are only poor because they use drugs.
They have the same go at life as you and me..

That's a pretty rank generalisation.

[Caliban]

That's a pretty rank generalisation.

there you go again Al, pulling rank, this time as a general no less!
Or should that be rank pulling.
You've always been rank.
(The puns in that (quoted) insult were so delicious I couldn't help myself. )
All my puns were intentional.

[silentC]

I still say we should not be talking about stringing some one up until after the trial.

It's not a question of whether they are guilty of murder or manslaughter or jay-walking. They had a 6 year old girl in their care and she died after consuming methadone. Intentional or not, it is their fault, they were responsible, they owed her a duty of care. If it was intentional, hanging would be too good for them. If it was an accident, they should never be allowed to be responsible for children again. Whatever happens, she (the mother) will have to live with it now.

[silentC]

Diamatapp is red I think

You can get Dimetap Clear, which is a straw colour I think.

[Ashore]

I still say we should not be talking about stringing some one up until after the trial.

Got to agree 100% with you on this one, have the trial then string them up


The trouble with life is there's no background music.

Russell

[silentC]

Update: magistrate in bail hearing says case for murder charge is 'thin'. Would probably be downgraded to manslaughter if it goes to trial. At least they have that option.

Character witnesses say she was a 'loving' mother. Apparently it was the step father who put the methadone in the cough medicine bottle - he admitted this to two of her teachers when they came to the house to offer condolences. School friends made a memorial garden for her.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...804518894.html

[LineLefty]

SilentC, you'll be interested to read this:

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117...60-421,00.html

[E. maculata]

Ok mild change of tack here,
imagine you've just lost your 6 year old child to a horrible horrible mistake, and you're beside yourself with guilt, absolutely numbed with grief, and then because it was methadone, the media awakens to attention, you get locked up, vilified and spat on, then physically assaulted. All the while you've trying to grieve for a lost child.

[Ashore]

E. maculata
Wouldn't have had methadone in the house, let alone in a medicine bottle in the fridge , would you I dont think so
Guilt they deserve , sympathy lies between $hit and Syphilis in the dictonary
These people had methdaone in the house with children and they want sympathy, well not from me.
I do grieve for the innocent lost through no fault of her own , but not for those whos excesses and own desires led to this horrific thing, I have no sympathy.
Weather it was an accident or not , they should not have had methadone in a medicine bottle in the fridge .


Ashore

[E. maculata]

Probably you or I wouldn't, but I do know that "there but the grace go I" and also once some of the gutter sniping trash for cash commercial muckrakers (I could go on but...) media get hold of it, you & I wouldn't know Martha from Arthur in drag.
What I'm saying is now I'll sit this one out on the fence.

P.S. when my wife was 4 she drank commercial hardener from a glass bottle, almost died, these days we'd probably bray & holler for a custodial sentence for her Dad especially after the local rag & maybe a few shock jocks jazzed it up, trying to up the ratings.

[Ashore]

Not having a shot at you Bruce
Agree completely about the media ( have had my fights with them )
As for "there but for the grace of god" , I disagree as that coveres too many sins and loosers.
Not every one from the same socio-economic background end up the same
Some people with every opertunity go bad while their siblings can be some of the best and likewise for those who start out with nothing.
You are what you have the desire and strength of will to become.

As for sitting on the fence, until all the evidence is heard you are proberly right
Its just that this kind of thing brings out such strong emotions, perhaps we should all sit on the fence espically considering we are getting our information from the media



Russell

[womble]

I hope they look at just how there was that amount of methodone in a private home anyway. I used to work for people who ran a methodone clinic and there are very strict rules about giving it out in QLD ie: they had to take it there and then in front of the chemist when they were given their dose. This was to ensure that they received their proper dose, and couldn't walk out the door and stockpile/sell it later on. The only time single doses are handed out to take home is in the event of a cyclone coming or public holidays.


The amount these people supposedly had is staggering.

[Gingermick]

I hope they look at just how there was that amount of methodone in a private home anyway.

The bloke was getting it from a illegal supplier rather than a program. And when takeaway doses are given they fill the bottles up with orange juice to deter ingestion in other ways, hence they are diluted and a couple of teaspoons / medicine cups wouldn't be enough to do what it did IMHO