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  1. #31
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    I'm not a brickie and have never had a brick house ... how long does it take to do 1000?
    If someone asked you to build a lunchbox with wheels and a mercedes benz at the same rate what would you do?

    So many variables. Piers take longer. So many variables.

    I currently get $1.50 per brick

    The issue with laying lots of bricks is that the more you lay the more labourers you need because they cant keep up.

    I have laid 2000 bricks one day in 9 hours with "3" labourers on a dead straight retaining wall. I couldn't walk for 2 days. Understand the scale of economics going on here?
    More pain, worn out mixer, same money.

    Theres not a shortage of them because the money is so great, you know.

    Its not the first day, after 6 months of 50 hours a week and youll be eating a bowl of Naprosan and Panadol for breakfast as the scar tissue on the tendons builds up.

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    I have nothing against bricklayers, some of my best friends are bricklayers, but if you can tell me where the sense in paying someone who may not turn up if it's a bit cold or wet or the fishing's too good to lay 1000 little things, then pay someone else who may not turn up to plaster over them, when I can just drop in a single panel that looks the same, but was made in a factory where no one cared about the weather, and it's cheaper and it isn't going to crack because the stuff's going to shrink at a known rate, not grow twenty years later ....
    Tilt panel started in America some 35 years ago. Theres reason the Americans don't use it in cyclone areas.
    Its not financially viable on anything under 700m2.
    Tilt panel had to be licenced because people were Aralditing the nuts back on the cleats.
    Theres virtually none in the UK.

    Its just a matter of time. Bang bang!

    And the ACCC is very good at triangulation

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    For commercial building, tilt slabs. That's the stuff they make bomb shelters out of!
    That would be insitu, definitely not tilt panel

    It would blow apart like a cardboard box.

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    And yes, when I gave the job of laying my bricks to a 2 man brickies team, they had the lowest quote, but I had also observed their work on the block next door, very neat work and they always turned up when they said they would.
    This is infrastructure costs. 2 man partnership doesn't have the overheads.

    Workers comp for an employee brickie run at about 17%

    New career for me to start in 6 weeks. Less pain, more net pay at the end of the year.

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