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Thread: Environment problems
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13th December 2007, 12:59 PM #31GOLD MEMBER
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Focus on the positive for a change!
Suppose I lived in Russia, around the steppes, or in the frozen wastes of norther Canada, It's damn cold, some years we may get a grain crop, but it's problematic. No-one lives here unless they have a chilly disposition.
Global warming will bring so many more of our cold savannah areas into cultivation, we will be eating grain three times a day and raising Waygu beef on the leftovers.
Winter will bring tourists to hunt ducks and fish in our no-longer-frozen creeks.
Obesity levels will fall as we won't need tubby women to keep us warm in the winter.
We will be able to grow trees and get carbon credits from the rich countries
We will be able to set up holiday homes in Antarctica to take advantage of the summer 24 hour daylight
if all of Antarctica's ice melts, sea levels will raise around 100 metres, which will provide more ocean playground for fish and seals and whales..... we are so human focussed
Elsewhere
The Gold Coast and its theme parks will be under water as will be the current harbourside homes of the rich and famous..... and that's a bad thing????
It don't sound all bad to me. I'm sick of the negative whingers. Let's focus on the good things global warming will bring.
Regards
Greg
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13th December 2007, 01:10 PM #32I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.
My Other Toys
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13th December 2007, 01:14 PM #33
oh bum I'll hafta move coz I'm only 85 metres above sea level now.
Does the warming mean the Taswegians will be growing mangos and bananas?
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13th December 2007, 01:32 PM #34
Here you go, you can have a look at how the world will look after a 14m sea level rise. This is Sydney harbour but it's like Google maps, you can go anywhere in the world and select a sea level rise to a max of 14m.
http://flood.firetree.net/?ll=-33.84....2268&z=5&m=14"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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13th December 2007, 01:41 PM #35
At 14 metres, Holland is gone. So is Venice.
"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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13th December 2007, 01:43 PM #36GOLD MEMBER
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That's ok. I've already seen them
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13th December 2007, 01:43 PM #37
people are dumb we live in a new estate we all have big blocks of land 3a
of the 20 houses only 3 or so face north, most put thier houses to face the street were most have thier windows the only bad thing about this they face west ,,hot in summer cold in winter
the only heater we have is wood we only use this about 16 weeks a year and only at night
most people will not see the sea level rise the mozzies will have wiped out most of the population my then
the answer has to be simple get rid of democercy get us some good dictators because no goverment is going to change anything if it lower our standed of liveing because they will loose the next election
change will come but only when the G/w effect out standed of liveing by then it will be a lot harder to fixsmile and the world will smile with you
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13th December 2007, 02:00 PM #38
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13th December 2007, 02:13 PM #39
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13th December 2007, 02:29 PM #40
good dictators eventually become corrupted by their power.
There is little if any dissension about temperature rises among scientists but considerable disagreement about the effects it will have.
As to the sea levels rising 100 metres.
There was considerable disagreement about the extent of sea level rises in the scientific community. A Warmer earth means more evaporation so more water in the atmoshphere. So the seas may not rise much.
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14th December 2007, 05:51 PM #41Member
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Sure they are. But do those km's have to be driven in a 6 cylinder car? What's stopping businesses and governments from purchasing smaller cars? Incentives to buy cheap, ?????? Australian built cars (not a big fan personally).
A lot of business km's are unavoidable
cycling in the country is impractical given the often signifigant distances involved
the emissions tax is totally unnecessary as the governments are reaping huge income from fuel to the extent they have are major cash surpluses.Increase taxes, any sort, the pig trough just gets bigger
To those of you wondering what we do to mimimise our energy bill, we don't do a heck of a lot. We live in suburbia, about 8km from Brisbane, we have town gas (ie. cheap as chips) and our house is lit by mostly energy saving bulbs. I have a feeling that the fact that we've got a gas hot water system helps too..? We have two reverse cycle inverter air conditioners (both here when we bought the place and had absolutely no impact on our decision to buy) - one in bedroom, one in lounge room. The lounge room system gets used for maybe 10 hours per year (all in February of course) and we use the one in the bedroom sparingly and ONLY for cooling purposes (ie. summer).
I'm really not sure what else contributes to us having such cheap electricity bills??
Cheers,
Lotte
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14th December 2007, 07:20 PM #42Happy Feet
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lots of rants here not many idea's
1.reduce the use of cars
this can be done by allowing lots of office workers to work 2-3 days from home. you can allow computer access
this would be especilly good for parents so you kill two birds with one stone
Kids get more parent time and can be picked up so parents dont have to leave kids in expensive daycare and after school care.
so parents save money and can afford solar panels and water tanks.
2.turn of or dim lights in office building, most have big windows and the lower light is more pleasant to work in.
3. set thermostat controls in winter you can put on a jumper.
the number of office workers that strip off when they get in is stupid.
unfortunatly these simple ideas need management on board.and some sense
we've just started a recycling system at work.
were asked to wash our yoghert pots before we bin them.
so idiots are using 3 ltrs of water to recycle a yoghert pot
4. encorage business to use conference phones instead of flying everywhere.
they'll get used to it
astrid
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14th December 2007, 07:56 PM #43Retired
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14th December 2007, 08:54 PM #44Happy Feet
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I knew that would get a bite
astrid
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14th December 2007, 10:36 PM #45"If you need a machine today and don't buy it,
tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."
- Henry Ford 1938
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