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    History is full of injustice. Things are hidden today as things have always been hidden. Something's are exposed better today and some things are hidden better today.

    Our 'informed' society make both possible.

    50 years ago most people could leave their keys in the ignition of their car.

    I did not for one minute say caning should be indiscriminate or anything like that

    To say caning should be outlawed because it has been abused is reasoning that could be equally applied to anything in society that has been abused.

    I took exception in this instance with the argument. To throw in other things does not change the initial argument. I responded in the initial reasoning. You may have other reasons.

    If you think society is generally better today - I think you are wrong. If you want to say we have made advancements is certain areas by all means. I can do much more much quicker with my electric variable speed lathe over my treadle lathe. Do I think we should go back to treadle equipment. By no means. However if someone wants to use one sure. If they want to teach its use in school, no objection.

    I agree the cane was on occasion handed out too easy. If it was introduced again it would be incredibly hard to regulate. I can't see it will ever come back. If it were I would not be one to vote against it. I would be very keen to see it regulated and any administering it to be held accountable as too those who decide on its use.

    Every child reared by fine parents can tell at least once when their parents (at least from their perspective) treated then unfairly or jumped to a conclusion. Would we for this reason say no parent should be a parent?


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    One of the modern era problems is parents spending way to much time on computers iPad's and such for very little outcome.

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    you become masters of nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FRB Design View Post
    One of the modern era problems is parents spending way to much time on computers iPad's and such for very little outcome.

    Cheers,


    Frank.
    Here here

    Or is that meant to be

    Hear hear


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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveTTC View Post
    Here here

    Or is that meant to be

    Hear hear


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    Google it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Shed View Post
    Google it
    But then is be wasting more time on my iPhone instead of helping my kids clean up 'their' toys. Wife will be home in an hour and the kitchen is a mess


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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveTTC View Post

    To say caning should be outlawed because it has been abused is reasoning that could be equally applied to anything in society that has been abused.


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    I say caning should be outlawed because it IS abuse. And it also doesn't help. It just teaches that the person with the big stick wins.

    One would hope with the bunch of disobedient kids we apparently have now we will never get atrocities committed by people "just following orders".
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    Never say brats aren't punished, they grow up and have brats of there own.
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    I DO leave my car open all the time. Its so full of junk no one would want it. And no one steals a beat up ol' camry for a joy ride.
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    We were blessed with a PE teacher and football coach who was capable of breaking bone. A caning from this "gent" left you with life long disfigurement. He was very proud of his ability and eagerly awaited his next victim. In an all boys school, he didn't have to wait long.
    Our school was very much a rugby school, with a very good sporting record. I loved footy and still do. Though the spirit is willing the flesh is weak. In a game against a rival school, I was playing fly half and was the captain. The opposing fly was an exceptional tackler and was managing to stand well offside in each set play. At times there would have been no more than 3m between us. I could understand his reasoning as I was much bigger than him and if allowed to get up a bit of speed I would have a good chance of breaking the tackle. This led to me having to receive the ball with my opposing player just waiting to send me to ground. So when in striking distance of their line , I would put across a diagonal kick for our winger, who would catch the ball and proceed to score a try. We pulled this off three times successfully during the game , with a few near scoring opportunities as well. We were defeated by one point. When shaking hands with my tormentor, I said how lucky they were to have a blind ref, he agreed. We have remained mates for life. Pound for pound , he would have had to be one of the best players I have played against.
    Upon leaving the field, our "coach" told me I played a "gutless game" and to see him in his office first thing the next morning.
    The next morning I received six cuts of the cane.
    Two days later, I was out on the paddock with the Combined High School side trying to catch and pass with two broken fingers on each hand. And they weren't from football.
    Our school, at the end of the season, played a short twenty minutes each way game between staff and first grade. My opposing player was my "coach." He lasted one tackle. Our half back measured the furrow in the ground at games end, it was ankle deep and two paces long. I have never felt more justified in my life.

    Leave the cane in the bush with leaves on it.

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