History of Australian Bushrangers

[outback]

Peter R, I got, I just don't want it.

Peter Sturdee, I gotta agree with Gumby, I'm oppressed too, but I don't think I'll go round killing people just yet.

[craigb]

Peter R, I got, I just don't want it.

Peter Sturdee, I gotta agree with Gumby, I'm oppressed too, but I don't think I'll go round killing people just yet.

Exactly.

Ned Kelly was a murdering scumbag.

[Gumby]

Sorry, but ned CHOSE to become a crook.

[echnidna]

Mark who???

[ozwinner]

Ned

[Gumby]

or this one...............

http://scs.une.edu.au/Bushrangers/kellys.htm

[bitingmidge]

I've always been fascinated by the fact that some of us imortalise a murdering scumbag!!

The tin-suit innovation was undoubtedly history-worthy, but wouldn't it have been so much more beneficial if he'd patented the outfit and started flogging them to the coppers?

He'd have made a lot more dough, and could have gone on to be Prime Minister, but he was too stupid and lazy, preferring to just take the rewards for other people's hard work.

Our pollies may or may not be many things, but there aren't too many of them that fit that category.

cheers,

P (crime commentator)

[Sturdee]

When I was young and impressionable I started working for a bank. And before I get flamed may I point out that in those days banking was an honourable and respected profession unlike now.

The bank in its wisdom sent me a, city dweller, to work for a few month in Benalla in the heart of Kelly country. There I learnt about the legend, saw the places and became convinced that poor Ned was a victim of the oppressive Victorian regime and its then corrupt police.

If the Kelly's had lived at a different time and place I feel certain that they would not have become outlaws. May be not model citizens but not outlaws.

Whilst I respect other views, this is mine.


Peter.

[bitingmidge]

If the Kelly's had lived at a different time and place I feel certain that they would not have become outlaws. May be not model citizens but not outlaws.

Peter,

I don't want to start a heavy and serious debate, (after all we aren't talking about computers or pencil sharpeners here), but couldn't that be said of any criminal???

Or of anyone for that matter??

Even so....should we not for the sake of history note that the Kelly's were not the only victims of oppression, and some of the others probably didn't choose to steal stuff and kill people?

Should those people not be the true heroes, suffering silently or otherwise to achieve change?

Or did someone suddenly wake up one day and say "Hey that Ned had a point! Let's free the people?"

Whooo it's late!!!!

P (Been listening to too many of John Williamson's mixed metaphors for me own good!)

[silentC]

I've always been fascinated by the fact that some of us imortalise a murdering scumbag!!

I wonder what they'll make of Chopper in a hundred years or so?

[bitingmidge]

I wonder what they'll make of Chopper in a hundred years or so?

Just another murdering scumbag! (Sorry Chopper... and author of children's books!)

There are any number of bad guys whose notoriety will remain with us for ever, and that's ok, after all they are a part of history and recognised for what they were.

Apart from Robin Hood (arguably there's a bit of the Kelly story in Hood as well, not vice versa!) were there any others whose intent was perhaps honourable?

Interestingly the rather sobering Broad Arrow Cafe monument in Port Arthur makes a point of not naming the gunman, in an effort to obscure his memory. There are a lot of websites which do the opposite, making claims of a massive conspiracy. Perhaps in another hundred years, he too will be just another victim of a government intent of ridding us of firearms at all costs??? And the families of his victims??

Dear oh dear PeterR, yo've got a lot to answer for!!!

Are any criminals famous for knocking off wood or furniture pieces??



P

[Peter R]

If you read the history books Gumby, Ned was persecuted into becoming a crook.

Oh No!!! society was to blame. Don't let Dan see this.
Isn't it funny how a simple little light hearted post can take on the weight of all the problems of the world?
Sometimes I feel like I have stepped into a pen full of angry fox terriers, which of course, will bring another cry of 'foul'.

I suppose that BAH-HUMBUG has to live somewhere.

Cheer up - think of the new gadget that your loved ones will buy you for the shed.

Peter R.

PS I spend a great deal of daytime making sawdust - these posts are just for fun.

[bitingmidge]

Sometimes I feel like I have stepped into a pen full of angry fox terriers,

If you don't mind Peter, I'd rather be identified with a Bassett, or even a Great Dane...they have a bit of a woof, then get to go back to sleep.

If I was a foxy I'd have to jumping up and down all the time and I'd just get too tired!



Cheers,

P (Don't take it too seriously it's just conversation!!)

[HappyHammer]

I've read the books and he was a crook end of of story. He's glamorised to sustain some small towns in Victoria and the film industry neither of which bother me particularly but he was no Robin Hood, what he did he did for himself.

HH.

[AlexS]

Apart from Robin Hood (arguably there's a bit of the Kelly story in Hood as well, not vice versa!) were there any others whose intent was perhaps honourable?




P

I reckon Guy Fawks was the last person to enter parliament with honest intentions!