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Thread: Nail Gun Types?
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22nd August 2004, 09:39 AM #1
Nail Gun Types?
Hi all,
Just hoping somone has a hyperlink handy that describes all the nail gun types.
Spedifically used for and nail sizes:
Finishing
Fixing
FramingThanks,
Barry G. Sumpter
May Yesterdays Tears Quench the Thirst for Tomorrows Revenge
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22nd August 2004, 03:40 PM #2
Hi Barry,
I haven't any links to post but as I've used nail guns to help me earn a living over the last coupla decades I may be able to answer some specific questions if you care to post them.
Cheers,
Mark.I wanted to become a brickie but my old man said "No son, learn a trade."
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22nd August 2004, 05:24 PM #3
Hi Duckman,
Thanks for the reply and the offer.
Just picked up a Performance Air
- air compressor from Tait Timber and Hardware
( 30 seconds from my home).
Performance Air - 2.5 HP - 40 liter tank.
Came with air hose, air duster, tire inflator w/gauge, and spraygun.
Direct Drive
Two connectors - one direct - one regulated.
10 CFM (???)
7.3 Free Air Delivery (???)
$AU199
A friend bought the 32 Liter from Bunnings with no extra tools and had to buy the 1/4" connector and only one connector ( can only have one tool plugged in at a time). $149 or $199 (???).
Anyway wanted to research prices on nail guns.
My only experience is a Pasload gas cordless framming gun I rented from bunning to put my octagon deck frame together.
And watching my fencing man gunning pailings.
And of course Norm on New Yankee (but have discounted his choices since he can afford the absolute best).
So I was a bit confused as to what type was used where.
Hopefully its not too complex.
So what should I buy for a first nail gun.
I'm NOT building a new extention up or out.
I wouldn't mind have a small nail gun to hold my joints in place as I glue.
And one that I can use on project trim.
And one for skirting boards.
Just don't know the difference between the finishing, fixing, and now th c-bradder nail guns.Thanks,
Barry G. Sumpter
May Yesterdays Tears Quench the Thirst for Tomorrows Revenge
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22nd August 2004, 06:06 PM #4
This link should help http://scs.une.edu.au/StudentFiles/S...rReeve/9_3.htm
By the sound of things you would be looking at a Bradder unless you want to buy 2 guns.Plausible deniability is the key to success
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22nd August 2004, 06:10 PM #5
MarkV,
Absolutely Brilliant !
Exactly what I was looking for...
Thanks heaps.
baz
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22nd August 2004, 07:03 PM #6
I would suggest that you buy the best one you can afford. One of the name brands such as Dewalt ,Senco or Hitachi would be my choice as it will last you a lifetime for home use and also ensure that you can easily buy nails for it at your local hardware store.
Plausible deniability is the key to success
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22nd August 2004, 08:58 PM #7
'best one I can afford'
hahaha lol rofl
I wish...
Thats why I bought the top-o-da-line Performance Air.
$AU200.
Big Cat and Nagel Meister are more in my price range... I think.Thanks,
Barry G. Sumpter
May Yesterdays Tears Quench the Thirst for Tomorrows Revenge
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22nd August 2004, 09:00 PM #8
Here's another one for da books
... brad & pinning ...
whats pinning? :confused:Thanks,
Barry G. Sumpter
May Yesterdays Tears Quench the Thirst for Tomorrows Revenge
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22nd August 2004, 10:53 PM #9
Barry,
I tend to use the two terms interchangeably, however there are really small guns that shoot a headless nail (C1?, not sure) often used for fixing glazing beads. Probably for your needs an angled bradder would be the most useful. You can fix skirtings & architraves, shoot together carcasses and hold joints together. The angled magazine will give better clearance for skew nailing, especially into corners. Most cheaper compressors come with a regulator but no filter/water trap. Unless you use the compressor only for dusting and inflating tyres you will need to fit a filter/trap as you don't want water in your spray gun or nail gun.
Mick"If you need a machine today and don't buy it,
tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."
- Henry Ford 1938
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22nd August 2004, 11:13 PM #10
G'day Barry. I have used the Hitachi 32 to 50 mm bradder extensively and its a great piece of kit for around $150 when I saw it last on special. However, I'd have to go with Mick on the angled arrangement if you fixing panel work when gluing up. Hitachi and Makita have them angled but only in the fixed size. Depends what you will most use it for. I use 19 mm ply a lot so 32 mm brads are great for assembly work. A mate has a realy old angled bradder that shoots 1" and I borrow it on occaision, does the job like another set of hands.
Cant help you with the framing gun although my local power tool bloke seems to do a good trade with the Hitachi. I think its worth looking into the consumables with the different brands.
CheersSquizzy
"It is better to be ignorant and ask a stupid question than to be plain Stupid and not ask at all" {screamed by maths teacher in Year 8}
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23rd August 2004, 04:23 PM #11Originally Posted by BarryGSumpter
Looks like you've received a few replies so I'll just add my 0.02 cents worth.
C brads are T nails but with small heads. The guns that fire them have straight magazines which can get in the way at times. Those mags are usually fully enclosed which makes clearing jams more difficult than it is with open style mags.
You'll sometimes see guns advertised as having the same angle as Senco guns. Its either 32 or 34 degrees, I forget which. This has become a defacto standard and any gun with the mag on this angle can use Senco nails. Good range and generally easier to obtain in a range of lengths than other brands or the C brads.
Personally, I buy the best tools I can, but then I'm using them professionally. I would advise you to not spend too much money because I don't think that you'll be using it enought to justify spending too much. You're never going to wear it out! At least not unless you give up working.
I use Senco guns and have done for more than 20 years, but they are at the top end of the price scale. I can't make any recommendations for guns at the budget end because I haven't been looking there.
Don't pay too much attention to manufacturers stated minimum nail length. You can usually safely use nails that are smaller than those recommended but be prepared for the occassional jam in the magazine.
As Mick has said, a water trap is essential.
Hope some of this has helped.
Hooroo..I wanted to become a brickie but my old man said "No son, learn a trade."
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23rd August 2004, 05:10 PM #12GOLD MEMBER
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Barry,
If you are after some more info on brad nailers, the current (Aug 2004) issue of Woodworker's Journal looks at 10 home-shop brad nailers. As part of the evaluation it describes what to look for in a brad.
Bob
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4th September 2004, 05:37 PM #13
Hi Guys,
Thanks heaps for all the responses.
Found a place in the trading post.
Soryy can't remember their name but were about 7 mins away.
Just south of Chadstone just off Warigal Rd.
Very small shot but a huge range and very knowledgable.
I bout the 16 Ga. T-64 Finishing Nailer.
25mm to 64mm nails. (largest range I could find for the price)
Pasload design takeoff .
$200 and a box of $18 nails thrown in.
Waranty but can't remember how long.
Ideal for door and window trims, decorative trim, and cabinet work, finish paneling, interior finishing, furniture making etc...
Instructed to add oil first then fire 20 times before loading nails.
Strongly suggested to use $40 inline water/oil filter.
I passed at the time but haven't used the gun as yet.Thanks,
Barry G. Sumpter
May Yesterdays Tears Quench the Thirst for Tomorrows Revenge
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4th September 2004, 06:06 PM #14
Bob,
thanks champ...
I just happen to have that mag right here....Thanks,
Barry G. Sumpter
May Yesterdays Tears Quench the Thirst for Tomorrows Revenge