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14th February 2009, 09:25 AM #1
Another Oz icon in trouble
It appears that Wattyl is heading for trouble after announcing another profit downgrade.
One of the factors they attribute this to is the entry of Nippon Paints in to the Australian markets, via an exclusive deal with Bunnings.
So next time you paint your house think about saving an Australian job and buy Australian made and owned Wattyl, Pascol or Solver.
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14th February 2009, 09:40 AM #2Senior Member
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I seem to recall seeing somewhere that Nippon Paint colours are a couple of shades different from all the other paint brands, so are not able to be used for "patching"
Anybody else see that, or am I mistaken??
Anyhow, BUY AUSTRALIAN and keep the jobs here!!!!
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14th February 2009, 10:13 AM #3
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14th February 2009, 10:53 AM #4
I bought some of the 15 year guarantee Nippon Exterior paint. I hve over 600 meters of 4x2 rails to paint on my rural fencing.
I do not want to do it again any time soon was was prepared to pay a premium for a fence paint.
It covered very well, in fact much better then the premium Dulux that I put on about 4 years ago. I cannot it see it lasting the 15 years ( Might be following the GMC Business model guarantee. )
However, unbeknown to me, my son in law and his father put some on a new door and after a week still had not dried. Thankfully, I did not recommend it to them, so i have some doubts about the consistency of the product.
Anything Bunnings pushes, is suspect to me now, so i am prepared to look elsewhere for alternatives. But it is getting harder to find products that live up to the hype.
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14th February 2009, 12:35 PM #5
Yeah, i saw this in the paper this morning too. (herald) Not Happy Jan... makes me want to go and buy some paints.... if only i needed to paint something!
What is the shelf life of paint? maybe one day i'll need some.Steven Thomas
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14th February 2009, 04:03 PM #6Senior Member
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Wasn't Wattyl the same mob some months ago tipped thousands of liters of paint rather than give it to charity?
Karma I'd say
Beside which arent they owned by Barloworld.
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14th February 2009, 05:16 PM #7
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14th February 2009, 05:55 PM #8
They're probably not listed as Wattyl, have a look on a can for the parent company, for instance Cabots is Orica.
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15th February 2009, 09:06 AM #9
I didn't hear of any paint dumping story either, so perhaps you could point me to a link, would be very interested as that doesn't sound like Wattyl.
As for no Wattyl being listed on the ASX, hopefully that statement doesn't reflect the accuracy of the paint dumping reference. They are indeed Australian owned and listed on the ASX, code WYL, have been for a long time. They own Pascol Paints in NSW and Solver Paints in SA.
Barloworld is a South African (Johannesburg) based company. They are the the Caterpillar representative in South Africa and own one of the largest Holden dealerships in Australia. At one stage they owned Tabmans, Bristol, White Knight and other paint brands, but I believe they sold Taubmans to PPG (pittsburgh Plate and Glass - US).
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15th February 2009, 09:11 AM #10
Of the bigger manufacturers, I'm pretty sure that Haymes Paints and Solver are just about the last of the independent, wholly Australian owned and manufactured paint companies left, that haven't been taken over by Orica or one of the other giant international paint conglomerates.
Could be wrong, but think a deep background search of most others will uncover heavy international involvement.
I sure there's a few boutique manufacturers around but none come to mind.
Buy Australian.
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15th February 2009, 09:17 AM #11
Sorry Neil, our posts crossed. Wattyl purchased Solver from the Crowhurst family back in the early 90s, can't remember the exact year. As far as I know Haymes is still owned by the Haymes family in Ballarat.
There has been a lot of musical chairs in the paint industry over the last decade or so.
http://www.wattyl.com.au/AboutUs/Pag...tylgroup1.aspx
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15th February 2009, 09:40 AM #12Senior Member
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I agree that Wattyl own Solver as I had a compatability problem with the two different brands.Wattyl finish coat did not bond to Solver U/coat, much to the Wattyl paint chemists' surprise.
The company re-did the whole job at their own expense, which pleased and surprised me.
They have one loyal and rusted on customer!!
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15th February 2009, 12:04 PM #13Retired
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15th February 2009, 02:33 PM #14
My apologies I worded that wrong I was answering the question
What i origionally posted (And no wattyl are a listed company on the Australian stock exchange , ie Australian owned)
should have read
And no,( answer to Beside which arent they owned by Barloworld.)
Wattyl are a listed company on the Australian stock exchange , ie Australian owned
I personally have had wattyl shares for over 25 yearsAshore
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15th February 2009, 08:16 PM #15
Amazing what happens when you're not looking eh.
Oh well looks like Haymes are it then....... Buy Haymes if you want to support a truly Australian product.
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