Spear & Jackson Medallions ?

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Here are 2 medallions of S&J I'm looking at purchasing these saws but am unsure of the year so I'm hoping that someone might have an idea through these medallions as I can't find any information about them on the net.

[hiroller]

Spear and Jackson was formed in 1830.
Assuming that the "200 years of sawmaking" means from 1760 when S&J's predecessor Spear and Love was formed, then the second saw is from after 1960.

More info here: https://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=115512

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Your right it seems after the 60's there is whiteness on the blade indicating to me he used a rust remover which I know first hand how that eats antique metal away this being a 1960-'s or later they probably used the same type of steel that's being used today so just maybe the rust remover doesn't have an adverse affect but still I won't take any chances.

I asked him about and he denied using it which for an eBay seller is pretty dishonest.

[Heavansabove]

The first saw is Joseph Tyzack & Sons. The ring of text around medallions started before 1915, but these are later, the Tyzack probably earlier. You might get better info if you provided images of complete saws

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yeah I should of but last night but I'm convinced they are from 1960's onward I doubt it if it's any later though, besides after corresponding with him something just felt off about him. He said applied no rust remover yet I can see it's done, he claimed to have received it that way but as a tool seller I doubt it. You know sometimes you just got to go with your gut feeling and stay away.