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Thread: What Do You Think?
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25th May 2008, 06:37 PM #1
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What Do You Think?
Man beheaded for rape
From correspondents in Riyadh
Article from: Agence France-Presse
A SAUDI man convicted of rape and armed robbery was beheaded by the sword in Riyadh today, the interior ministry announced. Mohammed bin Hamad bin Saud al-Dusri was convicted of several armed robberies in the capital and of rape, the ministry was quoted by state news agency Spa as saying. Dusri's execution brought to 60 the number announced by Saudi Arabia this year.
Last year, a record 153 people were executed in the Gulf kingdom, which applies a strict version of sharia, or Islamic law. This figure compared with 37 beheaded in 2006, and the previous record number of 113 executions in 2000.
Rape, murder, apostasy, armed robbery and drug trafficking can all carry the death penalty in the ultra-conservative country, where executions are usually carried out in public.
I have just finished reading the article above and was wondering if anyone else feels that watching criminals being beheaded is a better deterant (crime prevention) here than a life time (if unlucky) in her majesty's prisons? I know some do-gooders will say it is barbaric & archaic but I feel that some persons contemplating doing illegal things will think twice before committing the offence.
What are your thoughts?
Ta
MH
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25th May 2008, 06:45 PM #2in my opinion prizons are to comfy.
free food and a nice place to sleep, exercize, tv and even university corses.
a mutch better life than some would have on the out side.
they should all have to do hard labour and be given only basic food and no cards, games and the like. (and if they are really misbehaving they should be made to sleep on canvas camp strechers)
the punishment should fit the crime murderers should be killed, sex ofenders should be castrated.
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25th May 2008, 06:49 PM #3
Carl, how much time have you done?
link didn't work and very few people (I would imagine) would set out with the intent of committing a capital crime. Those that do are almost certainly delusional and wouldn't care about consequences as they think they will not get caught anyway.
Did you know the rate of suicide and depression is much higher on death row guards and executioners?
Killing someone doesn't punish them, only their families.Mick
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25th May 2008, 11:19 PM #4
No easy answer to this. I agree that the punishment should fit the crime. But for capital crimes, a higher standard of proof should be required. "Beyond a reasonable doubt" isn't enough to justify a permanent solution. We've had a few felons exonerated owing to more sophisticated DNA analysis. And IIRC, some of them might have been on death row.
Rape is often more an exercise of domination and terror, not sexual gratification, so castration isn't a perfect penalty either.
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Fiction has to make sense. - Mark Twain
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25th May 2008, 11:50 PM #5
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just like in Prison Break
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IMO, the death penalty could be used effectively but like mick said - it doesnt punish the person who did the crime. i also agree with carl when he said that prisons are to 'soft'. the inmates are there to be punished for what they did and at the same time, remove them from society.S T I R L O
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26th May 2008, 12:18 AM #6
I for one do not want to pay, to keep someone in prison, who if they get half a chance is quite likely going to commit a crime again if they get out.
You see it time after time, they release some of these low life types and they murder some poor bugger, when they should have had their neck streched after their first crime. Like this ba%#*d that belted that young girl with the fibro cutters and then tried to burn her alive. I do not want my hard earned tax money feeding him. Hang him!!!!!!!!!!
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26th May 2008, 12:37 AM #7
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26th May 2008, 12:43 AM #8
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By the very figures you quoted clearly it doesn't work, If they executed 113 people in 2000 and it was supposed to be a deterrent why did they have to execute 153 in 2006? Some of these people get even off on getting their heads cut off!
Most people that kill someone are mentally ill or on drugs - putting the mentally on the streets and executing 10 times more ofthem won't make a cracker of a difference.
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26th May 2008, 08:22 AM #9
Of course you know how many of your hard earned are required to be spent on legal proceeding? (nothing against lawyers)
I read a book on Gary Gilmore who the first person executed in the us after a ban in the sixties of seventies and from my recollection, he wanted to be executed, but the system wouldn't allow it. Appeal after appeal that only served to line his counsel's pocket.Mick
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26th May 2008, 09:05 AM #10
Living in a country that has no death penelty, I ride a line between yes and no. I think you call it sitting on the fence.
I personally do not support the death penelity, but in certain cases it would be a fair alternative, to supporting them the rest of their natural lives.
I feel the justice system (at times) is too hard on petty crimes and too easy on serious crimes.
It just don't add up, and we would not get a unanimous decision.
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But will make what I am looking at better.