3000 year old shipwreck in Warrnmabool Region

[echnidna]

Archeologists discovered 50 plus hand cut pieces of olive wood at Levy's Point last October. Scientists have completed 2 separate tests and determined the wood is 3000 years old.

Driftwood has been ruled out and so has an early indigenous tree source.

So it now seems possible the first ships to visit Australia may have been Egyptians or Phoenicans about 1000 years BC.

Further archeological digs and scientific investigations are being mooted.

[Grunt]

Ficken amazing.

[Iain]

Then they continued past Tassy and fell off the edge of the world, hence the visit has never been recorded
I also recall a few years ago a group of Ayatollahs declared that the world was indeed flat and the theory that it was round was a plot devised by Americans to discredit their own countries beliefs.

[Robert WA]

As a former SCUBA, sometimes wreck, diver I have been hearing stories about "The Mahogany Ship Wreck" in sand dunes on the coast of Victoria for years.

As I remember the story, a wreck was discovered in the very early years of settlement and the timber of an exposed frame was said to be mahonany. Subsequent attempts to locate the wreck were failures and it was speculated that dune movement had covered it.

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~jwilliams4/mahog2.htm Here is some information. A search of "mahogany ship" in Google turns up a heap of sites.

Rob

[Iain]

On a more serious note, we have a book called 'The Secret Discovery of Australia' which credits the Portugese (I think for memory) with having landed in WA in the 14th or 15 century.
This does not seem to get the credit it deserves and more people seem interested in the Mahogany Ship although there is more evidence of the former.

[Daddles]

So, the Egyptians turned up ... and didn't want the place.
Then the Portuguese turned up ... and didn't want the place.
Then the French turned up ... and didn't want the place.
Then the Poms turned up ... and here we are.

They must've all landed in Victoria

Cheers
Richard

[bitingmidge]

Here was I thinking the Mahogany Ship was actually of Chinese origin.

Check out http://www.1421.tv/ "1421" the year China discovered the world, then borrow the book from the library for another take on how all this came to be, including charts used by the Portugese explorers, and of course our own Jimmy C.

Written from a navigator's perspective, a very interesting read.

Cheers,

P

[beejay1]

So, the Egyptians turned up ... and didn't want the place.
Then the Portuguese turned up ... and didn't want the place.
Then the French turned up ... and didn't want the place.
Then the Poms turned up ... and here we are.

They must've all landed in Victoria

Cheers
Richard

Bit of a cock up there Richard,,,we were trying to find Egypt at the time
beejay1

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[Gumby]

You sure it wasn't Daddles latest creation ? Did it have 'Redback' on the transom ?? :confused:

[Sturdee]

So, the Egyptians turned up ... and didn't want the place.
Then the Portuguese turned up ... and didn't want the place.
Then the French turned up ... and didn't want the place.
Then the Poms turned up ... and here we are.

They must've all landed in Victoria

Cheers
Richard

You forgot the Dutch, they came before the Poms.

They didn't want to discover it as there was no money in it but they forgot to turn left to go to the East Indies.


Peter.

[echnidna]

The interesting thing about the "mahogany ship" is that when the wreck was first seen it was investigated by the Warrnambool harbour master who found that the timber was oak.
From thereon the myth about the mahogany ship grew and conveniently disregarded the prime eye witness of the day.

The latest discovery has reportedly been validated by scientists.

[journeyman Mick]

Any links to news articles? While it may appear unlikely I wouldn't discount it as impossible. Nowadays we think we're really smart and capable, and I guess collectively we are. But where would most navigators of today be without GPS, radar, depth sounders and auto pilots. We tend to think that because we wouldn't dream of doing an open ocean voyage in a timber boat sewn together with rope made from rotted coconut husks using only a lodestone floating in a bowl of water and a stick on a string as navigation instruments that it's not possible. Fact is that the Arabs were trading with China ona regular basis 900 years before the Europeans got there.

Mick - son of a seafarer

[echnidna]

It was the front page story in todays Warrnambool Standard. Which is a Fairfax paper so its possible there are newspaper articles online about it Mick.

[echnidna]

The Warrnambool Stadard website is http://the.standard.net.au/
but its currently only up to Friday.

[Christopha]

Archeologists discovered 50 plus hand cut pieces of olive wood at Levy's Point last October. Scientists have completed 2 separate tests and determined the wood is 3000 years old.

Driftwood has been ruled out and so has an early indigenous tree source.

So it now seems possible the first ships to visit Australia may have been Egyptians or Phoenicans about 1000 years BC.

Further archeological digs and scientific investigations are being mooted.

STREWTH BOBBITY!!! You have been a member of this here ill ustrious forum long enuff to know that this subject should be in the bluddy BOAT forum..... I don't know it hard as blzes soaring with turkeys......