Are all tradsemen bastards

[ozwinner]

Are all tradsemen bastards?
Well read on.

I have been doing brickwork for the same builder for about 5 years, give or take a break or two.

Anyway, the up come to the story is that they lowered their bricklaying rates with out telling me.

And here I am thinking Im getting payed $900 per 1000 bricks.
Seems a lot I know but it aint, beleive me.

So anyway, I send in the invoices and get no payment.
Hmmm? :mad:

Send a repeat of invoices.
Hmmmm, same result.:mad:

It seems those in power have deamed, that the brickies are too over paid and shall now receive only $800 per K bricks.

Soooo when were they going to tell me? :confused:

8 weeks Ive been sending the same invoices in to be paid, 8 weeks Ive been ringing the office to see whats going on.

Freakin hell. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Why was I told after I done all this ball breakin work, and not before?

Of course you cant expect the same quality of work for lesser money?

Dont ever trust a company with "Con" in their title.

Al :mad: X1Brazillion

[JDarvall]

$800 per hundred k......... how long does it take you to earn that $800 ?

Is it anymore than $25 hour ? .... cause if it is, I just don't know how I'd feel about a bloody bricklayer making more than me..... (ya winger ozwinnnnnnnnnnnner ! )

[coastie]

He might be one of those CUB's we have ben hearing about?

[jow104]

But Al, have you not told us that the bricks have got larger.

Get out your ruler if don't beleive me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ozwinner]

$800 per hundred k......... how long does it take you to earn that $800 ?

Is it anymore than $25 hour ? .... cause if it is, I just don't know how I'd feel about a bloody bricklayer making more than me..... (ya winger ozwinnnnnnnnnnnner ! )

I average about 100 bricks per hour, but I have overheads.

And I get no super.
No holiday pay.
No sick leave.

I dont really see what the quantity I lay has to do with it.
If I layed less would you pay me more to make up for it?

Besides, how would you feel about your employer lowering your rate after you have done the work?


Al

[ss_11000]

but al , have you not told us the bricks got larger

then he should get more. if the bricks were smaller then he would get less.

so do you know why they didn't tell you?

[woodbe]

It's the same story all over Al,

If they're screwing you like that, they're either greedy or they're going bad. Either way, time to change your allegiances.

On the other hand, our builder has a plumber who has left open trenches on our small site for over 4 weeks. Now someone needs a kick up the backside...

woodbe.

[echnidna]

Time to move on Al,
don't work for them again,
when they ring with a job say ok
then don't turn up but keep saying you will.
if they kickup remind them of the unannounced rate cut.

[sea dragon]

Simple situation is that one party cannot change the rate without the agreement of the other.
If you did the work without the notice of their "desire" to offer less, you are entitled to the $900 rate. That continues until you are aware of their desire to offer $800. Effectively, if you chose to then do more work, you have accepted the amended rate. Until then,the old rate applied.
Turn it around. How do you think they would respond if you told them you put your rate up 2 months ago and they arenow obliged to pay you at that higher rate? Right!!! It goes both ways.

[Stuart]

If they changed the rates without notification, then I'd say they are liable to pay the rate that was agreed to ($900). Otherwise, sounds like they may have to be taken to court.

[ozwinner]

Simple situation is that one party cannot change the rate without the agreement of the other.
If you did the work without the notice of their "desire" to offer less, you are entitled to the $900 rate. That continues until you are aware of their desire to offer $800. Effectively, if you chose to then do more work, you have accepted the amended rate. Until then,the old rate applied.
Turn it around. How do you think they would respond if you told them you put your rate up 2 months ago and they arenow obliged to pay you at that higher rate? Right!!! It goes both ways.

I couldnt agree more, but getting the money from them is the problem.
They have this person on a desk that is told to pay no more than X, so its imposible to get them to pay up.

Al

[Harry72]

Threaten them, tell them your going too call the lawers and sue.

[jow104]

Al,
Its like being back in the old country, remember the coal mine owners reduced their rates.

[Gumby]

Al, it's not Tradesmen who are bastards. It's people in general I'm afraid.

[Groggy]

Al, from the little law I know they cannot vary the rate without discussion.

Any variation needs a minimum of an offer, acceptance and agreement, even an appearance of those three. If you've chased them for eight weeks that does not show agreement. Go to small claims or start giving them what $800 per 1000 is really worth - whose insurance is on the job quality?