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    Exclamation Hey, a question and I need opinions...

    If you can, in your personal view, what is the best stain type to suit to Radiata Pine?

    I am currently in my HSC year and in progress to my Folio, which is getting in it's final stages, as I said, it'd be great to know your views on my question....

    In my research area, on finishes, I have put in Wood stain, and explained why I want to pick this stain, but in futhur details I listed Water stain, Oil stain, Spirit stain, I wanted to find which is best suited to Pine, so I used google and it doesn't have info.....

    Thanks, if possible, back your personal view with facts etc. Thanks a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lachy9 View Post
    If you can, in your personal view, what is the best stain type to suit to Radiata Pine?

    I am currently in my HSC year and in progress to my Folio, which is getting in it's final stages, as I said, it'd be great to know your views on my question....

    In my research area, on finishes, I have put in Wood stain, and explained why I want to pick this stain, but in futhur details I listed Water stain, Oil stain, Spirit stain, I wanted to find which is best suited to Pine, so I used google and it doesn't have info.....

    Thanks, if possible, back your personal view with facts etc. Thanks a lot.
    Lachy , what are you staining ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manuka Jock View Post
    Lachy , what are you staining ?
    Oh right, I'm making a 'study desk', which is killing me right now, it's massive... 2 cabinets, with a desk(corner piece), a leg, one of the cabinets have 4 drawers, other 1 drawer and door, plus a storage thingy to sit on the desk, can't figure it's orginal name but, yeah a study desk in general...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lachy9 View Post
    Oh right, I'm making a 'study desk', which is killing me right now, it's massive... 2 cabinets, with a desk(corner piece), a leg, one of the cabinets have 4 drawers, other 1 drawer and door, plus a storage thingy to sit on the desk, can't figure it's orginal name but, yeah a study desk in general...
    Ok ,
    well first off , wheres the pics , we likes pics on here
    Partly so that we can see the grain , cos there is pine , and there is pine .

    Also , what finish are you thinking of putting on top of the stain ?
    Poly , varnish , shellac , french polish , oil , ... ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manuka Jock View Post
    Ok ,
    well first off , wheres the pics , we likes pics on here
    Partly so that we can see the grain , cos there is pine , and there is pine .

    Also , what finish are you thinking of putting on top of the stain ?
    Poly , varnish , shellac , french polish , oil , ... ?
    Haha, yeah I'll try and get a pic or a few, that'll probs help.

    For the finish, other than staining, I'm not sure yet.

    The stain, is most likely to be 'Ebony', dark brownish.

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    The drawbacks and pluses of various types of stain are easily researched on the net or in a number of books that cover staining and polishing. Even contact makers of stains and dyes.
    The problem with radiata and stains is that there tends to be an uneven pick up - i.e. it soaks in more in some places than others giving a blotchy appearance. Your best way of demonstrating this for the project is to use each type of stain on scrap wood. Then decide which is best for the wood you are using.
    Manufacturers get round the blotchy problem by using spray-on varnish.
    Another point you have to consider is whether you want to make the grain a feature. If you don't, and want a dark finish, life is easy. Remember it's your project, just be prepared to say what you were aiming at and why you used the stain/varnish/finish you did.
    Cheers,
    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbur View Post
    Even contact makers of stains and dyes.
    The problem with radiata and stains is that there tends to be an uneven pick up - i.e. it soaks in more in some places than others giving a blotchy appearance.
    Yep , yer right there. Jim.
    I refinished some things a few years ago , and instead of using timber stain
    I used a natural fiber water soluble mid brown dye that brought the pine up to a hardwood like colour . I soaked some in a bath of it and brushed and wiped it on the rest . No blotchiness and easy to give it another coat if you want it a tad darker.
    I followed that up with oil .
    Only those in the know could tell that it was pine .

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    Did you have much trouble with lifting grain Jock?
    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbur View Post
    Did you have much trouble with lifting grain Jock?
    Cheers,
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    No , none at all Jim . I let it dry thoroughly before I oiled it . Let that soak well in , and then gave it a solid going over with fine wet and dry paper .
    I was using olive oil in those days

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    Thanks Jock

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbur View Post
    Thanks Jock
    Cheers Jim

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    I wonder how well a Henna hair dye would work? It's water based and naural. You can get it in a range of colurs from jet black to reddish broawn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artme View Post
    I wonder how well a Henna hair dye would work? It's water based and naural. You can get it in a range of colurs from jet black to reddish broawn.
    Experience?

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    Could be worth a try . Is it cheaper that fiber dye ?

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    Price depends on where you buy and what brand. It is sold in Indian stores. They use it for skin decoration and as a hair colouring.

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