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    Default I Need A Cad Program

    Been using an old dos cad program.

    But Dos is so cumbersome to use, its a pita.

    Had a look at a few 3d programs including Turbocad and Autocad but what a steep learning curve.

    Looked at Sketchup - same thing

    Anyway so much for the rant

    back ter me dos cad.
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    Hi Bob


    Don't know if this will help you but you could have a look at Rino www.rhino3d.com/download.htm -
    You can download a free copy but it is missing some things and only has 25 saves .Also it is not a parametric modeler so is harder to get your head around how it works .

    There is also ailebra www.alibre.com/ - 13k - 23 Jul 2007

    - this is like sketch up and is a lot easier to get your head around but i still have trouble making sqheres you can also download a free copy .

    sketch up is great i had a lot of fun doing the house plans .

    best of luck

    Rob

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    Autocad is easy. Easy easy easy. And, if you dont like the way it works, you can change it untill you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingermick View Post
    Autocad is easy. Easy easy easy. And, if you dont like the way it works, you can change it untill you do.
    I have AC14 and its a pain

    any tutorials available?
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    What's giving you trouble?

    Better yet, make a list of all the things you want to do (and a keyboard shortcut you want for the thing) and post it here and I'll stick it into a file for you.
    Mick

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    so long since I looked at it I've forgatten

    I do remember that you need to read the manual just to draw a box
    Regards, Bob Thomas

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    Read down the list on the right and enter the shortcut on the left (without the comma)
    To draw a box, type rec for rectangle. To draw it the correct size, select the first corner then type @width,height return. (Width and height need to be numbers btw)
    The commands are fairly self explanatory, and you can change the shortcut.


    ; -- Sample aliases for AutoCAD commands --
    ; These examples include most frequently used commands.

    3A, *3DARRAY
    3DO, *3DORBIT
    3F, *3DFACE
    3P, *3DPOLY
    A, *ARC
    ADC, *ADCENTER
    AA, *AREA
    AL, *ALIGN
    AP, *APPLOAD
    AR, *ARRAY
    -AR, *-ARRAY
    ATT, *ATTDEF
    -ATT, *-ATTDEF
    ATE, *ATTEDIT
    -ATE, *-ATTEDIT
    ATTE, *-ATTEDIT
    B, *BLOCK
    -B, *-BLOCK
    BH, *BHATCH
    BO, *BOUNDARY
    -BO, *-BOUNDARY
    BR, *BREAK
    C, *CIRCLE
    CH, *PROPERTIES
    -CH, *CHANGE
    CHA, *CHAMFER
    CHK, *CHECKSTANDARDS
    COL, *COLOR
    COLOUR, *COLOR
    CO, *COPY
    CP, *COPY
    D, *DIMSTYLE
    DAL, *DIMALIGNED
    DAN, *DIMANGULAR
    DBA, *DIMBASELINE
    DBC, *DBCONNECT
    DC, *ADCENTER
    DCE, *DIMCENTER
    DCENTER, *ADCENTER
    DCO, *DIMCONTINUE
    DDA, *DIMDISASSOCIATE
    DDI, *DIMDIAMETER
    DED, *DIMEDIT
    DI, *DIST
    DIV, *DIVIDE
    DLI, *DIMLINEAR
    DO, *DONUT
    DOR, *DIMORDINATE
    DOV, *DIMOVERRIDE
    DR, *DRAWORDER
    DRA, *DIMRADIUS
    DRE, *DIMREASSOCIATE
    DS, *DSETTINGS
    DST, *DIMSTYLE
    DT, *TEXT
    DV, *DVIEW
    E, *ERASE
    ED, *DDEDIT
    EL, *ELLIPSE
    EX, *EXTEND
    EXIT, *QUIT
    EXP, *EXPORT
    EXT, *EXTRUDE
    F, *FILLET
    FI, *FILTER
    G, *GROUP
    -G, *-GROUP
    GR, *DDGRIPS
    H, *BHATCH
    -H, *HATCH
    HE, *HATCHEDIT
    HI, *HIDE
    I, *INSERT
    -I, *-INSERT
    IAD, *IMAGEADJUST
    IAT, *IMAGEATTACH
    ICL, *IMAGECLIP
    IM, *IMAGE
    -IM, *-IMAGE
    IMP, *IMPORT
    IN, *INTERSECT
    INF, *INTERFERE
    IO, *INSERTOBJ
    L, *LINE
    LA, *LAYER
    -LA, *-LAYER
    LE, *QLEADER
    LEN, *LENGTHEN
    LI, *LIST
    LINEWEIGHT, *LWEIGHT
    LO, *-LAYOUT
    LS, *LIST
    LT, *LINETYPE
    -LT, *-LINETYPE
    LTYPE, *LINETYPE
    -LTYPE, *-LINETYPE
    LTS, *LTSCALE
    LW, *LWEIGHT
    M, *MOVE
    MA, *MATCHPROP
    ME, *MEASURE
    MI, *MIRROR
    ML, *MLINE
    MO, *PROPERTIES
    MS, *MSPACE
    MT, *MTEXT
    MV, *MVIEW
    O, *OFFSET
    OP, *OPTIONS
    ORBIT, *3DORBIT
    OS, *OSNAP
    -OS, *-OSNAP
    P, *PAN
    -P, *-PAN
    PA, *PASTESPEC
    PARTIALOPEN, *-PARTIALOPEN
    PE, *PEDIT
    PL, *PLINE
    PO, *POINT
    POL, *POLYGON
    PR, *PROPERTIES
    PRCLOSE, *PROPERTIESCLOSE
    PROPS, *PROPERTIES
    PRE, *PREVIEW
    PRINT, *PLOT
    PS, *PSPACE
    PTW, *PUBLISHTOWEB
    PU, *PURGE
    -PU, *-PURGE
    R, *REDRAW
    RA, *REDRAWALL
    RE, *REGEN
    REA, *REGENALL
    REC, *RECTANG
    REG, *REGION
    REN, *RENAME
    -REN, *-RENAME
    REV, *REVOLVE
    RO, *ROTATE
    RPR, *RPREF
    RR, *RENDER
    S, *STRETCH
    SC, *SCALE
    SCR, *SCRIPT
    SE, *DSETTINGS
    SEC, *SECTION
    SET, *SETVAR
    SHA, *SHADEMODE
    SL, *SLICE
    SN, *SNAP
    SO, *SOLID
    SP, *SPELL
    SPL, *SPLINE
    SPE, *SPLINEDIT
    ST, *STYLE
    STA, *STANDARDS
    SU, *SUBTRACT
    T, *MTEXT
    -T, *-MTEXT
    TA, *TABLET
    TH, *THICKNESS
    TI, *TILEMODE
    TO, *TOOLBAR
    TOL, *TOLERANCE
    TOR, *TORUS
    TP, *TOOLPALETTES
    TR, *TRIM
    UC, *UCSMAN
    UN, *UNITS
    -UN, *-UNITS
    UNI, *UNION
    V, *VIEW
    -V, *-VIEW
    VP, *DDVPOINT
    -VP, *VPOINT
    W, *WBLOCK
    -W, *-WBLOCK
    WE, *WEDGE
    X, *EXPLODE
    XA, *XATTACH
    XB, *XBIND
    -XB, *-XBIND
    XC, *XCLIP
    XL, *XLINE
    XR, *XREF
    -XR, *-XREF
    Z, *ZOOM
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    Thanks Mick I'll have another play with it
    Regards, Bob Thomas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingermick View Post
    Mick had lots of good things to say...
    Hi Mick

    I've been using Pytha for a year now and find it all right but I've been doing things that seem to be a bit beyond it's ability. And the written materials that are available are worse than any other manuals I've ever read - they're a complete waste of time to be frank. I would like to see what autocad has to offer. Can you recommend any books to take a nube through a few lessons and get them grounded.

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    See here, Bob


    The beatings will continue until morale improves.

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    Well, short of writing lisp routines, all the 2D functionality is quite straight forward. It really depends on what you want to do. 3D is a bit more difficult. The solids editing is a bit lame, but unless you want to draw a 3d object and create sections through it, the solid editing is irrelevant.
    What do you do with CAD?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingermick View Post
    Well, short of writing lisp routines, all the 2D functionality is quite straight forward. It really depends on what you want to do. 3D is a bit more difficult. The solids editing is a bit lame, but unless you want to draw a 3d object and create sections through it, the solid editing is irrelevant.
    What do you do with CAD?

    I work for a shop fitting outfit. So do a lot of drawings in 3D. I also have it at home (boss lets me take the dongle home) and I draw furniture and such.

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    The people who do mechanical engineering and draw industrial fittings and pipes in my company use microstation. http://www.bentley.com/en-US/Product...ation/Main.htm
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    I draw furniture
    Forget 2d thats easy
    Does AC R14 only do wire frame 3d or does it do hidden line removal too
    Regards, Bob Thomas

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    Only have 2004 at home and 2005 at work so I cant check. I imagine it should.
    use the comand vports to set up diferent views. And shademode to set the views to wireframe or hidden.
    Mick

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