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25th October 2006, 01:11 PM #1
Pay or Put up? Kit sheds
As many of you know (through all my tedious posts of late ) Im in the throws of organising my workshop.
I have cleared the site, got the plans in at council and my BIL is a concretor so he is doing the slab.
Question is:
Do I pay the shed company (fair dinkum) to put it up or do it my self?
Its 6.0 x 3.5 x 2.7 (h). It has two large windows, personal access door, roller door, roof insulation..... Pic below
Quote given to me to put the thing up was $1200.
Im reasonably handy but never done anything like this before.
They supply instructions but they are very general and not specific to your shed design...
Thoughts? Experiences good or bad?I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming in terror like the passengers in his car.
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25th October 2006, 02:12 PM #2
Well... all I can say is...
gawd help you!!
Nah you can do it... with help... I got my 9x6 up with help... first my two sons then future son in law and finally his father... and the addition of an extra 2 beams of c channel to keep the bloody roof up!
Shedco being the same company as Fair Dunkum and the sheds being the same type of shed Im thinking you probably got the same massive general non specific instruction manual of their website as I did? bloody waste of friggin time that was...
You can do it... I ahem we did... others have... you can... But be mindful of that bloody roof the small joiner peices in mine at least wouldnt hold it up in a fit and down came a foot deep sag from the first to third bay... so we had to roar 100 klicks up the road to FSLs fathers farm grab a couple of c channels he had laying around and use one as a bloody upright and the other as a cross member to get the roof up! pain in the ass! :mad:
But its up! and yours will be to you can do it... a pain in the bum for sure but you can do it.
Me if I do it again (which I will in a few months) will pay the extra and get them to put the sodding thing up! by the time we had finished we were totally and utterly over sheds. :eek: okay until the tools went in then the love affair was on again
Oh... if you can find some get some new roller doors the ones that come with these sheds are pure and utter crap... Im presently chasing a couple of B&D Roller doors to replace these ones
Anyway good luck with it!!Believe me there IS life beyond marriage!!! Relax breathe and smile learn to laugh again from the heart so it reaches the eyes!!
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25th October 2006, 02:17 PM #3
It all really comes down to how much you want to swear and cuss :eek: when things don't go well.
I put my 9x6mt shed up 3 yrs ago and pulled it back down due to buying a house and moving. I did it by myself and took me about a week to put it up and a day to pull it down. I do have a background in building and steel fabrication, so have the know how and tools required to do it . Mind you the biggest shed I have put up was 48mt Longx18mt widex11mt high:eek: .
It's not rocket science and is fairly easy, you just have to have some patience and make sure that everything is square and lined up before you go putting to many screws and pop rivets in:eek:
If you go with the installation, it will most likely be done in less than 2 days probably 1 dayCheers
DJ
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25th October 2006, 02:39 PM #4SENIOR MEMBER
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I thought of assembling mine myself but futunately SHMBO talked me out of it.
The builders at it up in less than a day and watching them square everything up and then fit the roller door, the glass door, the windows and the whirly gigger in the roof I was glad she had talked me out of it.
SHMBO is the best investment I ever made.
Ross
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25th October 2006, 03:01 PM #5
JDub
Myself and one neighbour put mine up in a day and a half. It was 13m x 6 m x 2.7m had insulation two roller doors, one PA door and a window. I had dramas with length of C purlins for the roof, holes not being drilled and holes drilled in the wrong place, I spent an hour on the blower and the stuff was at my place within the hour and they did not want the left over stuff back. So I ended up with enough wall sheeting to make another single garage and enough roof sheeting to be another double garage and I am not complaining.
But to be honest save yourself the drama and pay them to put it up.....however make sure you are on the job and oversee it cos I have heard many horror stories about the roof not being square, walls not meeting in the corners covered up with flashing.
1200 sounds a fair price.
PeteIf you are never in over your head how do you know how tall you are?
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25th October 2006, 03:22 PM #6
I got a quote of $3000 to put up mine: 16m x 6m x 3.3m at the gutter. No way! My brother in law, as it happened, used to labour for a guy who erected Ranbuild sheds (which is what I bought), so he came down and I helped him do it. Bit tricky but not impossible. It helped that he'd done a few before but the first thing I noticed was that he didn't bother following the instructions because "we know how to do it, don't need no stinking instructions".
I installed the PA door, windows and the roller doors on my own.
For one the size of yours, I'd do it myself no question, unless I didn't have the time. $1200 is $1200. You can buy a lot of wood/tools etc for that
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25th October 2006, 04:07 PM #7
I put up one 9m x 6m Titan shed by myself with couple of mates, and took me about 5 weekends inc. the slab (and several slabs of XXXX ). It was finicky, and in the end, sheets were put up slightly out of plumb...which amplifies as you progress!! There were details not fully explained in the instructions, and I never did get the roller door to work properly. The next one I had put up by professional installers and they took about 1 1/2 days and everything was shipshape. Pay it, I say!
Cheers,Andy Mac
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25th October 2006, 09:05 PM #8Senior Member
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JDub
I put my 6Mt X 14Mt X 2.7Mt workshop up in 3 days with help from my sons. It was either that or a smaller shed and have it erected.
woodcutta
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25th October 2006, 09:51 PM #9
I'm all for the do-it-yourself. I put up mine on my own, only got help with the roller door. The roller door would be impossible to do on your own and by memory don't release the tension before it's clamped into place. Just a suggestion, when I ordered my shed, I got one window smaller, I think it was about 500mm high which I put on the end as close to the ceiling as I could. On this end I put a workbench and still had wall space to hang tools on. With two large windows you loose a lot of wall hanging space. With the 1200 saved you could build one heck of a work bench.
Regards,
Squirrel.
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25th October 2006, 10:25 PM #10
I did my 21m x 12m shed mostly by myself. I must say I wish I had paid the $5000 I was quoted. It was 4.2m high so it makes everything that much higher and harder.
Its not the ability to do it thats the issue, its the time it takes, because for me it wasn't second nature stuff. Not metal anyway. I hate working with colourbond.
But, your shed is easily managable and I reckon I would finish it in a weekend. $1200 tax free for 2 days, not bad wages to pay yourself. Even $1200 for 4 days where you wouldn't have been earning anyway is a good saving in my opinion.
I would definitely do that size myself, but never will I do a big one myself again.
Your best instructions will come from this forum as it sounds like there are plenty of test pilots here.
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26th October 2006, 09:31 AM #11The roller door would be impossible to do on your own
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26th October 2006, 09:57 PM #12
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27th October 2006, 01:17 AM #13
Did I mention the roller doors? GET BETTER ONES!!! The ones that come with these damned sheds are pure and utter crap! :mad:
Experience 1... having put the shed up as well as we could including the trip to FSIL fathers farm 100klicks away and back putting up some seriously solid C channel (note not the flimsy shyte they call steel c channel nowadays this was REAL STEEL!! ) and making a few "alterations" to the structure one door moved to the side additional supports in etc etc
The main roller door (facing the house) would continuously loose the damned stupid pathetic plastic grommit thing that housed the "bar" that locks it... and said bar would drop out and lock the damned door up half way meaning one had to duck down under the door hunt around the floor looking for the stupid pathetic plastic gromit thing and when finally finding it slide it back onto the bar raise the door step outside lower the door and lock... for near on a year thats been the go with THAT door the others the same just that I dont use it as an access door just for air... Ive tried putting pop rivets through that thing but my experience said that that just plain didnt work the pathetic plastic grommit just cracked around the friggin thing leavin it swinging
Experience 2... out to the shed today unlock said door halfway up wont move... around to other side door open that one easy as... go over to said main access roller door and once there do the hunt for the little friggin pathetic plastic grommit thing and finally find it over near the bench while the damned locking bar on the right has hung itself up on the top of the slider bit :mad: go to try to unlock the other side which is also hungup but inside the damned slider thing swear cuss and fume reach up and touch... read that TOUCH the damned thing thats hung up in the air and it FALLS OFF!! yep the bar just dropped to the ground... oooh bloody brilliant says he so had a gander at the two of them thin ali for a start small undersized poprivet holding it on for second and a broken pathetic plastic grommit thing for third :mad:
So instead of doin a final days work out there makin some late starting chrissy pressys for the kids I spent the entire bloody time this arvo FIXING THE BLOODY DOOR!! :mad: Just so it locked and secured quater decently cause it never was able to be locked or secured even half way that meant its locked and secured maybe one third of what it should be! :eek:
AND!! To bloody well top it off... the other damned door lost its left hand side bar as I locked up this evening when I left... so... FIRST thing tomorrow morning Im gonna have to bolt out there do some major swift alterations and additions to secure the bloody shed while Im away at the mine :mad: and this has to be done BEFORE we drive to Perth a 2 1/2 hour trip in time for the plane :mad: this is a time we reserve for her an I to just share some quiet time together sorting things and other stuff before I leave
Beleive me THESE DOORS ARE SHYTE!!! Replace them as soon as possible with good quality doors and save yourself some greif
Anyone know of someone wanting to part with 2 B&D Roller doors PLEASE let me know!!!Believe me there IS life beyond marriage!!! Relax breathe and smile learn to laugh again from the heart so it reaches the eyes!!
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27th October 2006, 08:59 AM #14
Are you afraid of heights?
Can you use tin snips (wear gloves)
Can you run up and down ladders all day to tack sheets in place, mark them , climb down cut them climb back up secure them?????
The sheets on ranbuild sheds need to be cut by you.
The roller doors on my shed (ranbuild) are good and I put them up by myself. 2.4 m x 2.7m I used a rope s a block and tackle to get them up high enough.
It is a rewarding feeling but very tricky and sometimes tedious.
It's up to you and how useful you are.
In the end there will be cockups but only you will notice.Cheers
Jim
"I see dumb peope!"
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27th October 2006, 09:40 AM #15The sheets on ranbuild sheds need to be cut by you.
The doors on my shed came from Steel line. I think that it depends on where you are located as to what doors you get. My doors are good, no complaints there. I bought a Ranbuild deluxe shed. Cost a bit more but worth it I reckon. The portal frames are a lot heavier and the corner brackets are bolted not screwed.
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