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31st May 2014, 02:50 PM #1Senior Member
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Schaublin 120 VM lathe
Had a massive road trip in the truck this week to pick up the CVA 10 x 30 lathe. What a beauty and in excellent condition. After much negotiation also brought home a Schaublin 120VM lathe. This was in the same area and I had been talking to the owner for a little while. He brought it from a railway engineering toolroom a decade ago and it had sat in the corner of his engineering business ever since and never been used. He was always worried he might damage it as he didn't have a manual and wasn't sure how everything worked. He eventually decided to sell it and let me know he was going to put it on ebay. Obviously it didn't stay there long as I made him an offer he was happy to accept.
Now it appears to be in reasonable condition but very dirty from sitting in the corner uncovered for many years. Ways look good with little backlash in slides. Variable speed drive and power feeds all seem to work OK. Came with ?a full collection of change gears, 3 and 4 jaw chucks and both steadies but no collets. Have only just unloaded the two lathes so no other info or pictures yet.
On my way to Sydney for the Qantas inspection day and pictures next week.
Any one else have a similar lathe or any info on this model. Have managed to get a manual in German so far.
Mark
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31st May 2014, 05:20 PM #2
Hi Mark,
Congratulations on the new lathes... especially jealous of the 120VM, they are a thing of beauty. I can't wait to see the pictures.
There was a 120VM in Singapore that I told GQ about last year, and he ended up being outbid on it, but came away with a couple of Aciera mills.
BT might know where to get a manual?
Regards
Ray
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Hi Ray,
I must admit I was thinking of you when I was deciding if I NEEDED another lathe. In the end I thought that if a more modern Schaublin did come up for sale I would likely never be the high bidder and given this is the best of the "antique" schaublins in terms of work envelope and capability I didn't want to let it go and regret it for the next twenty years. The guy I brought it from was happy to see it go for a very reasonable price so the deal was done. I look forward to comparing the schaublin to the CVA and DSG once I find a place to put them all. Decided to sell the Hafco AL900A which was the first lathe I ever owned and which I have always enjoyed using but 5 lathes is one to many. It is in pristine condition and I sold it to the first person I mentioned it to (and it brought only a bit less than the schaublin).
Pictures will be forth coming and this may be my first machine that gets repainted.
Current lathes
Schaublin 120VM
CVA 10 x 30
DSG 13 x 42
Simmons microspeed 24 x 72
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31st May 2014, 08:29 PM #9
Don't i know it. 5 seems to be the number. I can live with 4, but 5 is too many.....
Well done on the new acquisitions, now i want to come to visit with the LeBlond bed even more just to see your collection! I'd really like to see how the Holbrook stacks up against the CVA. Now if there was a 10EE close to compare.....
Ew1915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
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31st May 2014, 11:08 PM #10
Mark, if your son has trouble with some of the technical terms in the manual, I'm happy to help out - don't hesitate to ask! I'm not volunteering to translate a 100 pages mind you!
Cheers,
Joe
9"thicknesser/planer, 12" bench saw, 2Hp Dusty, 5/8" Drill press, 10" Makita drop saw, 2Hp Makita outer, the usual power tools and carpentry hand tools...
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31st May 2014, 11:44 PM #11Senior Member
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Thanks a lot Joe, will let you know if having problems
Mark
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Hey Mark,
It might be worth brushing up on your high school French and joining this forum - http://www.usinages.com/ There is some probably relevant information pertaining to the 120VM.
Photos such as these might prove helpful -
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Then there is the Schaublin Yahoo group, also worthy of membership.
BT
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1st June 2014, 12:54 PM #14Senior Member
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[QUOTE=Anorak Bob;1779098]Hey Mark,
It might be worth brushing up on your high school French and joining this forum - http://www.usinages.com/ There is some probably relevant information pertaining to the 120VM.
Thanks Bob,
I have already joined the Yahoo group and I can see a lot of useful info there. I hope those photos are not too useful as I am hoping to not have to see those parts close up!
Regards
Mark
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There is often some confusion between the schaublin 102 and the 120 lathes. The 102 is essentially a lightweight bench type lathe with a multitude of accessories much beloved of watch makers and other small instrument makers. They were made in relatively high numbers over many decades and still command good prices especially if well accessorised. The 120 VM is Schaublins attempt to enter the toolroom arena. They were no where near as common (Tonys lathe site less than 2000 were ever built) but were a much more heavily built machine. My 120 weighs in the region of 7-800kg and that is for a machine with a work envelope of only 8 x 20". At the time they were hideously expensive. They were capable of high accuracy with a massive leadscrew,screwcutting capability (although via change gears),coolant, power feed and infinitely variable spindle speed that can be altered while being used. They were only made till about 1963. Hopefully will learn more as I go. Tony's lathe site gives a good rundown.
Mark