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30th October 2004, 05:02 PM #1
English made Stanley-Bailey Planes
Could someone please help me out? I have a Stanley-Bailey No6 plane, with "Made in England" on the body and the blade? Most sites that I have seen only deal with planes made in seppo land(USA). Thanks :confused:
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30th October 2004, 07:33 PM #2
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Your problem is?.............................
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30th October 2004, 10:01 PM #3
Is the answer here??:
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/P...flowchart.html
CheersSquizzy
"It is better to be ignorant and ask a stupid question than to be plain Stupid and not ask at all" {screamed by maths teacher in Year 8}
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30th October 2004, 10:04 PM #4
or maybe here:
http://www.htpaa.org.au/stanley-oz.php
But whatever the question is I'm sure thye answer is within these threads. Just do a search.
CheersSquizzy
"It is better to be ignorant and ask a stupid question than to be plain Stupid and not ask at all" {screamed by maths teacher in Year 8}
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31st October 2004, 01:06 PM #5
Why, because I am interested. Squizzy, thanks for the websites, but no joy. I have even emailed Stanley for their help(?).
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31st October 2004, 03:07 PM #6
help on what?
We know you've got a plane [UK No. 6], and know that you're interested in it, but what we don't know is what you need help on.
???????
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31st October 2004, 03:10 PM #7
Maybe it's very personal, between a man and his plane
Bruce C.
catchy catchphrase needed here, apply in writing to the above .
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31st October 2004, 07:23 PM #8
You gotta be careful gettin' to close. Specially if its scary sharp. Ya might do ya self a injury. I'd keep a little space between me and the business bits.
Boring signature time again!
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31st October 2004, 07:28 PM #9
Pat
We're all waiting on tenderhooks for you to say what information you seek. All we know is that you have an English Stanley #6 (or Try Plane ... we're all trying).
We all all plane folk here and are willing to speak plainly about your plane.
So come on now. Let it out....
Regards from Perth
Derek
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31st October 2004, 07:35 PM #10
Gentlemen and I'll use that term loosely. I just want to find out when the plane was manufactured. I can estimate that it may be a type 17 if it was made in usa, but am unsure if this holds true for "Made in England". Apologies for any and all confusion. It may be true that a cluttered workshop(shed, garage, desk, room) reflects a cluttered mind.
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31st October 2004, 09:25 PM #11
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31st October 2004, 10:06 PM #12
Pat
You're correct in your observations about English Stanley planes: I don't think that anyone has ever typed them. Frankly, I'm not sure if they can be. The point is, I am not sure at what point in time Stanley began making planes in the UK. I have often thought about this, but never bothered to enquire (I will do my best to find out). My thoughts are that they were made in relatively recent times, that is, sometime in the last 50 or 60 years, possibly coinciding with USA-made planes declining.
I have a few English Stanleys and there are differences in finish (I'm referring to those made around/before 1950s. Anything after this is really not worth buying unless you are willing to do a large amount of fettling). On the negative side, the English planes use a cheap hardwood and may lack brass components (using steel instead). On the positive side, the iron is often a little thicker, producing a plane that is slightly heavier than the USA counterpart.
I hope this helps a little. I'll see what I can find out.
Regards from Perth
Derek
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1st November 2004, 09:15 AM #13
Stanley started manufacturing tools in England in 1937, some 80 years after they were established in New Britain Conn USA. They acquired the firm of J.A. Chapman in Sheffield and have been making tools there up until recently. I think they've now moved out of Sheffield to a newer plant.
With regards to your British built 6, the earliest Sheffield planes would have been more or less "type 16". I've seen very few but that's how they look, with rosewood handles and all. Castings are usually a bit thicker.
If your plane has those raised ribs radiating from the tote and knob bosses, it'll be a post 1970s manufacture, polystyrene handles from the mid/late 80s. Somewhere along the line they went from cast Y lever, to the two piece stamped on, then back to a die cast one. Brass, then steel, and back to brass, such as the adjusting nut etc.
Believe Derek, my 5 is heavier than a USA 5 made some 50 years earlier.
A plane is just a hafted blade; IMHO any plane can be made to do what it's supposed to do.
zitan
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1st November 2004, 09:58 AM #14
If the plane is marked G12-006 it's made after 1983.
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1st November 2004, 11:33 AM #15
Hey Folks,
Just to butt in on the conversation, Where does one find these numbers on a Stanley?
Himzo.There's no such thing as too many Routers