I Need A Cad Program

[echnidna]

Been using an old dos cad program.

But Dos is so cumbersome to use, its a pita.

Had a look at a few 3d programs including Turbocad and Autocad but what a steep learning curve.

Looked at Sketchup - same thing

Anyway so much for the rant

back ter me dos cad.

[jags]

Hi Bob


Don't know if this will help you but you could have a look at Rino www.rhino3d.com/download.htm -
You can download a free copy but it is missing some things and only has 25 saves .Also it is not a parametric modeler so is harder to get your head around how it works .

There is also ailebra www.alibre.com/ - 13k - 23 Jul 2007

- this is like sketch up and is a lot easier to get your head around but i still have trouble making sqheres you can also download a free copy .

sketch up is great i had a lot of fun doing the house plans .

best of luck

Rob

[Gingermick]

Autocad is easy. Easy easy easy. And, if you dont like the way it works, you can change it untill you do.

[echnidna]

Autocad is easy. Easy easy easy. And, if you dont like the way it works, you can change it untill you do.

I have AC14 and its a pain

any tutorials available?

[Gingermick]

What's giving you trouble?

Better yet, make a list of all the things you want to do (and a keyboard shortcut you want for the thing) and post it here and I'll stick it into a file for you.

[echnidna]

so long since I looked at it I've forgatten

I do remember that you need to read the manual just to draw a box

[Gingermick]

Read down the list on the right and enter the shortcut on the left (without the comma)
To draw a box, type rec for rectangle. To draw it the correct size, select the first corner then type @width,height return. (Width and height need to be numbers btw)
The commands are fairly self explanatory, and you can change the shortcut.


; -- Sample aliases for AutoCAD commands --
; These examples include most frequently used commands.

3A, *3DARRAY
3DO, *3DORBIT
3F, *3DFACE
3P, *3DPOLY
A, *ARC
ADC, *ADCENTER
AA, *AREA
AL, *ALIGN
AP, *APPLOAD
AR, *ARRAY
-AR, *-ARRAY
ATT, *ATTDEF
-ATT, *-ATTDEF
ATE, *ATTEDIT
-ATE, *-ATTEDIT
ATTE, *-ATTEDIT
B, *BLOCK
-B, *-BLOCK
BH, *BHATCH
BO, *BOUNDARY
-BO, *-BOUNDARY
BR, *BREAK
C, *CIRCLE
CH, *PROPERTIES
-CH, *CHANGE
CHA, *CHAMFER
CHK, *CHECKSTANDARDS
COL, *COLOR
COLOUR, *COLOR
CO, *COPY
CP, *COPY
D, *DIMSTYLE
DAL, *DIMALIGNED
DAN, *DIMANGULAR
DBA, *DIMBASELINE
DBC, *DBCONNECT
DC, *ADCENTER
DCE, *DIMCENTER
DCENTER, *ADCENTER
DCO, *DIMCONTINUE
DDA, *DIMDISASSOCIATE
DDI, *DIMDIAMETER
DED, *DIMEDIT
DI, *DIST
DIV, *DIVIDE
DLI, *DIMLINEAR
DO, *DONUT
DOR, *DIMORDINATE
DOV, *DIMOVERRIDE
DR, *DRAWORDER
DRA, *DIMRADIUS
DRE, *DIMREASSOCIATE
DS, *DSETTINGS
DST, *DIMSTYLE
DT, *TEXT
DV, *DVIEW
E, *ERASE
ED, *DDEDIT
EL, *ELLIPSE
EX, *EXTEND
EXIT, *QUIT
EXP, *EXPORT
EXT, *EXTRUDE
F, *FILLET
FI, *FILTER
G, *GROUP
-G, *-GROUP
GR, *DDGRIPS
H, *BHATCH
-H, *HATCH
HE, *HATCHEDIT
HI, *HIDE
I, *INSERT
-I, *-INSERT
IAD, *IMAGEADJUST
IAT, *IMAGEATTACH
ICL, *IMAGECLIP
IM, *IMAGE
-IM, *-IMAGE
IMP, *IMPORT
IN, *INTERSECT
INF, *INTERFERE
IO, *INSERTOBJ
L, *LINE
LA, *LAYER
-LA, *-LAYER
LE, *QLEADER
LEN, *LENGTHEN
LI, *LIST
LINEWEIGHT, *LWEIGHT
LO, *-LAYOUT
LS, *LIST
LT, *LINETYPE
-LT, *-LINETYPE
LTYPE, *LINETYPE
-LTYPE, *-LINETYPE
LTS, *LTSCALE
LW, *LWEIGHT
M, *MOVE
MA, *MATCHPROP
ME, *MEASURE
MI, *MIRROR
ML, *MLINE
MO, *PROPERTIES
MS, *MSPACE
MT, *MTEXT
MV, *MVIEW
O, *OFFSET
OP, *OPTIONS
ORBIT, *3DORBIT
OS, *OSNAP
-OS, *-OSNAP
P, *PAN
-P, *-PAN
PA, *PASTESPEC
PARTIALOPEN, *-PARTIALOPEN
PE, *PEDIT
PL, *PLINE
PO, *POINT
POL, *POLYGON
PR, *PROPERTIES
PRCLOSE, *PROPERTIESCLOSE
PROPS, *PROPERTIES
PRE, *PREVIEW
PRINT, *PLOT
PS, *PSPACE
PTW, *PUBLISHTOWEB
PU, *PURGE
-PU, *-PURGE
R, *REDRAW
RA, *REDRAWALL
RE, *REGEN
REA, *REGENALL
REC, *RECTANG
REG, *REGION
REN, *RENAME
-REN, *-RENAME
REV, *REVOLVE
RO, *ROTATE
RPR, *RPREF
RR, *RENDER
S, *STRETCH
SC, *SCALE
SCR, *SCRIPT
SE, *DSETTINGS
SEC, *SECTION
SET, *SETVAR
SHA, *SHADEMODE
SL, *SLICE
SN, *SNAP
SO, *SOLID
SP, *SPELL
SPL, *SPLINE
SPE, *SPLINEDIT
ST, *STYLE
STA, *STANDARDS
SU, *SUBTRACT
T, *MTEXT
-T, *-MTEXT
TA, *TABLET
TH, *THICKNESS
TI, *TILEMODE
TO, *TOOLBAR
TOL, *TOLERANCE
TOR, *TORUS
TP, *TOOLPALETTES
TR, *TRIM
UC, *UCSMAN
UN, *UNITS
-UN, *-UNITS
UNI, *UNION
V, *VIEW
-V, *-VIEW
VP, *DDVPOINT
-VP, *VPOINT
W, *WBLOCK
-W, *-WBLOCK
WE, *WEDGE
X, *EXPLODE
XA, *XATTACH
XB, *XBIND
-XB, *-XBIND
XC, *XCLIP
XL, *XLINE
XR, *XREF
-XR, *-XREF
Z, *ZOOM

[echnidna]

Thanks Mick I'll have another play with it

[Toolin Around]

Mick had lots of good things to say...

Hi Mick

I've been using Pytha for a year now and find it all right but I've been doing things that seem to be a bit beyond it's ability. And the written materials that are available are worse than any other manuals I've ever read - they're a complete waste of time to be frank. I would like to see what autocad has to offer. Can you recommend any books to take a nube through a few lessons and get them grounded.

[scooter]

See here, Bob

[Gingermick]

Well, short of writing lisp routines, all the 2D functionality is quite straight forward. It really depends on what you want to do. 3D is a bit more difficult. The solids editing is a bit lame, but unless you want to draw a 3d object and create sections through it, the solid editing is irrelevant.
What do you do with CAD?

[Toolin Around]

Well, short of writing lisp routines, all the 2D functionality is quite straight forward. It really depends on what you want to do. 3D is a bit more difficult. The solids editing is a bit lame, but unless you want to draw a 3d object and create sections through it, the solid editing is irrelevant.
What do you do with CAD?

I work for a shop fitting outfit. So do a lot of drawings in 3D. I also have it at home (boss lets me take the dongle home) and I draw furniture and such.

[Gingermick]

The people who do mechanical engineering and draw industrial fittings and pipes in my company use microstation. http://www.bentley.com/en-US/Product...ation/Main.htm

[echnidna]

I draw furniture
Forget 2d thats easy
Does AC R14 only do wire frame 3d or does it do hidden line removal too

[Gingermick]

Only have 2004 at home and 2005 at work so I cant check. I imagine it should.
use the comand vports to set up diferent views. And shademode to set the views to wireframe or hidden.