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Thread: Is my builder doing this right?
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16th February 2008, 09:58 PM #1
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Is my builder doing this right?
We are building a double storey house at the moment (slab on ground, pine timber frame, timber chamferboard cladding, iron roof), and I as the owner is project managing. The builder has come well recommended and I have no reason to believe that he wont dont a quality job. I know very little about building and just try and check the obvious common sense things. At this stage most of the pine framing is up on both levels, the first floor is down and the roof trusses go on next week. Today, I went to the house with a spirit level and tape measure to check that walls, door/window frames are plumb - but came away somewhat worried. For example, there is an internal doorway where the top of the bare door frame is around 1.5cm narrower than the bottom of the bare door frame. Is this something I should be worried about? I presume something (door jamb?) has to go over the door frame before the door gets hung and thats when the problem with the door being out of square/plumb will be fixed? What else should I be checking to keep the builder honest?
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16th February 2008, 10:14 PM #2
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If he puts the door jam in and those measurements are still the same ....then worry ....its not unusual to have a frame slightly out of true .....doorways and windows are usually "packed" so the frames fit properly .....its not a big concern ....
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16th February 2008, 10:21 PM #3
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Thanks. Is it likely that these internal doors will be bought by the builder pre-framed and they will just be positioned in the hole and any gaps packed?
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16th February 2008, 10:24 PM #4
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18th February 2008, 05:19 PM #5
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Firstly welcome and my comments are intended to save you loads of grief over your building project.
I may get flamed and this probably is not what you would like to hear, but if you have to ask these kind of questions I don't think you should be a project manager.
Instead if you really feel the need to second guess the builder, who as you say comes well recommended, then I think you should employ a professional like the Archicentre or an architect.
Peter.
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18th February 2008, 05:27 PM #6
As a general rule I'd be wary of a builder who asks you to be the project manager ( owner builder), It may, not always, but sometimes be due to the fact that the builder can't obtain insurances, and warranty cover. As the owner builder you are responsible for the warranty on the house.
Just be careful and as said before if you cant project manage your own house being built probably not a good I dea to do it? Not trying to be mean but it's a fairl risk venture if you don't know what your doing.If you dont play it, it's not an instrument!
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18th February 2008, 08:57 PM #7
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I know very little about building and just try and check the obvious common sense things.
and I as the owner is project managing.
The builder has come well recommended and I have no reason to believe that he wont dont a quality job.
For example, there is an internal doorway where the top of the bare door frame is around 1.5cm narrower than the bottom of the bare door frame. Is this something I should be worried about?
It is NOT a problem per se, in that he can "fit" the doors to the opening, however he is creating more work for himself than necessary by being less accurate than he SHOULD be!
Errors on door frames SHOULD (IMHO) be NO MORE than 0.5cm and realistically are easy enough to be more accurate than this.
I presume something (door jamb?) has to go over the door frame before the door gets hung and thats when the problem with the door being out of square/plumb will be fixed?
(If you are talking about the timber wall framing that SURROUNDS the door frame, then the problem is not real a problem. When the door frame proper is fitted then the builder can than "adjust" the proper door frame for a good fit, by packing etc. Not my preferred method, but no doubt would work)Kind Regards
Peter
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19th February 2008, 12:10 AM #8
CG
what sort of arrangment have you made with your builder? Any building work over $1100 in Qld requires the use of contractors with the appropriate QBSA licenses. Any work over $3300 requires a written contract. Unless you are going owner builder you can't actually carry out the supervision or project management.
Mick"If you need a machine today and don't buy it,
tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."
- Henry Ford 1938
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19th February 2008, 04:53 PM #9
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19th February 2008, 07:13 PM #10
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19th February 2008, 10:07 PM #11
You lot talkin to ya selves agin....
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19th February 2008, 10:29 PM #12
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20th February 2008, 09:23 AM #13It is NOT a problem per se, in that he can "fit" the doors to the opening, however he is creating more work for himself than necessary by being less accurate than he SHOULD be!"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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22nd February 2008, 11:26 AM #14
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22nd February 2008, 01:10 PM #15
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Looks like Ewes have Scared him Off............Ewes NASTY Ppl
Another one by the looks,
But at least he got 2 Posts..........
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