Security System - Scumbags Strike

[vsquizz]

Our good neighbours over the road have just been rolled. The Scumbags smashed a backwindow. Neighbours where only out for a couple of hours. I'd taken the kids bike riding and SWMBO was doing the house cleaning thing. Nobody seems to have heard or seen anything. We all have security screens and deadlocks etc but this doesn't seem to stop a druggo from smash and grab.

So tomorrow the Squizz Monster is off to look for a basic security system. People up the street got the whole whizzBang works. Costs them every month, and went off everytime a cockroach broke wind. Was so useless they had it disconnected. I'm just looking for something basic for the hooligans.

Any suggestions? (moving to Switzerland is out because they don't have jarrah there) (and the baseball bat thing is out as well...lets not go there)
I hear some of the sensors are wireless now??. We are getting a dog but our good neighbours had one too!. I don't mind spending a couple of hundred if its going to help in some way.


Cheers

[DavidG]

A reasonable sized dog.
I have a Red Heeler.
Nobody can get in the yard with out me being notified. :eek:
She barks then comes to me and makes sure I go and check who it is.
Good company too.

[Robert WA]

Dick Smith advertises a variety of security units that can be self installed. I know nothing about them.
My daughter and her husband live in a vulnerable part of Perth and have had 2 breaks in 12 months. They have some security but, obviously, not enough.

[vsquizz]

David, The neighbours have a bull terrier

Rob, there is little difference in Perth, it happens everywhere, because of drugs which is everywhere. A few bad burbs although the actual difference in crime rates is not much. The forensic copper who just left told us he attends between 10 & 20 households a day. Makes you wonder. I'll look at the tricky dicky online. I was hoping to find a member with experience in the industry.

Cheers

[Ben from Vic.]

I'm just looking for something basic for the hooligans.

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Ben.

[Barry_White]

Squizzy

Just as a point when I was selling security screens and burgular alarms one thing a lot of people did initially was to put stickers on all the windows saying that the place was alarmed and I think you can buy dummy boxes with a blue light on them to put up high on a gable or somewhere and this will certainly deter them.

They are smart enough to pick the softest target over one that could be potentially more risky.

That may be helpfull in the short term.

David as long as the bull terrier is not a staffy because I have a staffy and he just wags his tail and invites everyone in no matter who they are.

[vsquizz]

Ben, A fine piece of engineering, but anything like that is too quick and painless, plus there is the mess. The only good thing to come out of the neighbours experience is the scumbags cut themselves on the window and left blood everywhere. The copper said once its in the DNA database its in there for good, see Big Brother can be a good thing. The copper gave my neighbour about 10 pairs of rubber gloves to help with the clean-up and must have said about 15 times, "don't get the blood on you".

Anyway, Yes way to quick for these types Ben. I've had some other ideas and SWMBO is keen on the razor wire and claymores, which could also help with the local cat problem.

Cheers

[DarrylF]

At work we get attempts on a regular basis - very desirable gear and a lot of it. Occasionally successful. The one thing that really stops them is physical security. Leave a computer next to an accessible window without bars on it and it's going to get nicked, alarm system or not.
So my suggestion: make it bloody difficult for them to get in. High side gates that are always locked, and fences around the back are probably the best first steps for a home IMHO. If your workshop is in a building with a roller door, bolt the bloody thing closed - roller door locks are pretty useless. Deadlocks on doors and locked windows also help. Alarms aren't too expensive - but as someone else mentioned, sticking up a siren, box & blue light outside and the stickers on the windows gets you 80% of the way there anyway, for not a lot of money.

Personally I wouldn't entirely trust a wireless alarm system. Wired models are more reliable, you don't have to worry about batteries, and it's really not that big a deal to install one.

[Honest Gaza]

Obviously, you could go the full hog and have door and window sensors, but in my humble opinion....some well placed PIR's is all you need connected to the main unit.

When selecting a Control Unit, ensure it has programmable entry / exit times because it will depend on where you place the keypads as to how much time you will need to disarm the system.

Also a handy feature to have is a "Sentry" feature. This means you can go to bed at night, and when there is movement detected by one of the PIR's, an audible beep can be heard from the keypad....but it doesn't set off the whole works, and scare the crap out of you. ( Great for when kids have a tendancy to go walkabout of an evening ).

[Baz]

Squizzy do a search I am pretty sure this subject was pursued a while ago with some reccommendations.
Cheers
Barry

[vsquizz]

Thanks Guys. The PIR's are definetly on the shopping list. Choice recommends getting one with a dialer so it rings your mobile if it goes off??. I know some people with monitored systems but the mob who monitor it don't/can't do anything useful and the cops are to busy. Always too late for $$$$per month

Baz, I did a search and went back a fair way and didn't find anything relavent. Maybe I have to go further?. I did find one mention of the systems whereby a PIR sets a camera off and the video recorder kicks in...Could be useful as the camera can be used as a general monitor.

My problem with improving physical security is that I already have security screens on the sliding part of the window but the scumbags just smash the unprotected part or easier still, just lift as few roof tiles. Roll on the corrugated iron .

The neighbours are devasted, locksmith and glazier on a sunday, beauty. Then there's the late model car which has to have the security code and barrels changed etc etc. Makes my blood boil.


Cheers

[gatiep]

The stickers and blue light are useful, but even more so is a flashing LED in a prominent place. There are high output LEDs that are extremely visible during the day and from far away at night. The important thing is to make the burglar think that it could go off if he attempts and then go off and look for what perceives to be a softer target.

I originate from South Africa and never had a burgulary there....used to loose the odd screw driver or setspanner that fits a bicycle. I'm not talking about violence but about the normal burgularies here. I got my shed cleaned out here in Perth on two occasions, once they definately got away with 2 ute and 2 trailer loads! I can tell you that they were painful experiences. Burgular alarm systems incorporating the stickers, blue lights and extra LED's in strategic places has kept them from trying ever since. Often trouble is invited by neighbours not thinking and telling people that you do a lot of work in your shed, or your open garage door while working advertises to all who passes that you have a lot of gear.......... make sure that your gear is not visible from the street!

Good luck..........the alternative is painful especially if they get away with what one has collected meticulously over a lifetime! Prevention is the name of the game.


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[Dean]

And dont forget to engrave all your goodies as per police protocol.
This makes it *harder* for them to sell quickly, and easier to identify if recovered.

Also, make sure your insurance covers your goods, especially the tools. Search for recent threads on both topics

[vsquizz]

Does anybody know if you can power up a relay from the PIR built into the Arlec Floodlights/movement sensor lights. So you could activate something in the house to let you know the light is on????Ahhh Dean, lets say I have a fair handle on the insurance aspect, thanks.

Cheers

[Dean]

Ahhh Dean, lets say I have a fair handle on the insurance aspect, thanks.

Just added it as a reminder for any other thread-following readers