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    Default USPS spoils this ebayers experience

    Lucky for me I know my seller quite well now... but could you imagine my surprise and increadible fear if I didnt know him well and he didnt tell me that USPS have changed their international charges?

    Seems that since I last dealt with Brian (my veneer seller in the states) the US Postal Service have changed the way they do business with international mail charges... they no longer allow "surface" or standard mail it ALL now MUST go air express... and there in is where they have UPPED the prices INCREADIBLY!!!

    The last time I got 12lb of veneers from him it cost around $20 for the postage of the carton this time they have quote him $62.40c to ship it downunder... while my usual 30lb carton will now cost me an extra $131.03 compared to the $55 it cost last time!!

    So it seems I may not be buying terribly much from the US anymore... one just KNEW it was too good to last and that some wanker would change things so that they a killing of us or we would drop out of the market So what was once a good thing for both me and Brian has now been sat on the back burners while I decide if Im still going to buy that 200lb of exotic veneers from him that Id planned on for this year (spread over the year of course!!) sad as shyte I am cause it appears at this stage to mean that Im back to dealing with the extremely DEAR and EXPENSIVE veneer merchants here which phisses me off badly

    Anyway just thought Id give you the heads up on USPS's changes.

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    Youch. AS someone who has bought heaps of stuff from the US, partly because the postage prices aren't too bad, this is gonna hurt.

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    Wild Dingo, If you and a couple of mates get together and order one big lot togeter, and split the cost by 4 or 5 (or by whatever times), would it work out more competitive price / quality wise that dealing through the veneer merchants here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tameriska View Post
    Wild Dingo, If you and a couple of mates get together and order one big lot togeter, and split the cost by 4 or 5 (or by whatever times), would it work out more competitive price / quality wise that dealing through the veneer merchants here?
    Quite simply? Yes.

    The prices AND quantities that can be bought for a bloody good price up there was what made it worthwhile... its another of "those things"... I will probably keep buying from Brian just not as much or as often which is a shame because he does have some excellent veneers and personally Id rather pay exhorbitant postage prices and the same prices for the veneers than pay the WAY OVER the top prices here... its still cheeper to do so.

    Actually its all dependant on what you plan on using it for... and how much you require... if all you require are small amounts then stick with the local Aussie merchant... definantly... but if your after quantity as in enough in sizes to allow you to do the door facings of a kitchen then it is better and to me at least cheeper to go US... all depends on what you need the veneer for and how much you need... IF all I was going to use it for was a bit of marquetry now and again then local definantly... but as Ive been ordered from on high to do the kitchen cupboards in the new house along with the bedroom and her "BLOODY BIG" sewing room (ex theatre room by the plans) then I need quantity and size and I dont want to loose my knuts getting it... which from my experience is what would happen if I were to buy Aus.

    In other words for the kitchen cupboards I need veneers that a) flow b) are at least 12in wide c) are at least 90 inches long... I cant get that here without loosing a limb in doing so... small no worries say a foot long x four inches wide easy as no sweat... but in the wider sizes? in matched lengths? in long wide lengths? no I cant simple fact.

    All depends on what you need it for

    But this USPS thing is gonna hurt... and will probably curtail my bi monthly buying a fair bit

    Never mind... I guess its one of those things... just gotta suck it up cause theres not much one can do about it... just thought Id warn people about it is all.

    A bulk order would be okay I guess... would have to think about it a bit though I think... my experience is that most people only want or need small amounts a few small sheets whereas I tend to go for bulk... anyway will see eh!... good idea though

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    yep, doh!

    May 14 was when they brought in sweeping changes and wiped out the surface shipping option. Looks like the value of my veneer stock just went up!.................
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    yep I was thinking of you and a couple of others when I posted that mate

    ah well I may just have to start cuttin the ones I dont want to smaller sizes and becoming an Aussie ebay seller to pay for my US buys eh!!
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    Actually surface IS available, you just have to be a MAJOR volume shipper - officially. So people like Rockler or the major magazine distributors can get access to surface, but not small merchants.

    Unofficially, if you don't put all the right notices & stamps on, or the dweeb at the P.O. just couldn't be bothered, you pay for air and the parcel gets shoved in a surface sack & takes 3 months to get here - I've had this happen a few times since the supposed abolition of 'surface' & am NOT happy, but UPS is even worse value, so I don't have a lot of choice.

    If your shipper is friendly, there are probably some 'break points' in the shipping charges, so it may be worth the time for both of you to do some checking & split shipments into smaller lots, or make HUGE shipments, to get the best weight for the dollar.

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    Yeah... shame really but there you go

    This new lots going to set me back about $300 landed so I think that will be it for awhile

    damned shame since I have some serious stuff to do in a few months but ah well onwards and upwards... must get around to REALLY setting my blasted bandsaw up and having a go at cutting my own... wont be any exotics and probably no where near as thin but well way it is I guess

    I cant see me getting into a group lot and buying bulk... so I guess I will just buy as I need when I need and restrict myself to once every 6 months or so man thats gonna hurt!

    Never mind its all good
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsrlee View Post
    Actually surface IS available, you just have to be a MAJOR volume shipper - officially. So people like Rockler or the major magazine distributors can get access to surface, but not small merchants.

    Unofficially, if you don't put all the right notices & stamps on, or the dweeb at the P.O. just couldn't be bothered, you pay for air and the parcel gets shoved in a surface sack & takes 3 months to get here - I've had this happen a few times since the supposed abolition of 'surface' & am NOT happy, but UPS is even worse value, so I don't have a lot of choice.

    If your shipper is friendly, there are probably some 'break points' in the shipping charges, so it may be worth the time for both of you to do some checking & split shipments into smaller lots, or make HUGE shipments, to get the best weight for the dollar.
    True - I recently bought from Lee Valley and took the Surface Post option - expected delivery time 8-12 weeks...
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    thats weird...i just placed my first order over seas ( usa ) and they quoted me postage of ten bucks $500 order and i think it would wiegh around 5-6 kg.
    from CSUSA if that makes a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ss_11000 View Post
    thats weird...i just placed my first order over seas ( usa ) and they quoted me postage of ten bucks $500 order and i think it would wiegh around 5-6 kg.
    from CSUSA if that makes a difference.
    Get prepared for a shock, postage will be much higher.

    Surface mail is, for all intents and purposes no longer available, whilst it was cheaper packages could take up to 5 months to arrive.

    I regularly buy books from OS and getting one particularly heavy book (think yellow pages) used to cost $10 surface, it now costs $35 but it does arrive within 10 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruzi View Post
    Get prepared for a shock, postage will be much higher.

    Surface mail is, for all intents and purposes no longer available, whilst it was cheaper packages could take up to 5 months to arrive.

    I regularly buy books from OS and getting one particularly heavy book (think yellow pages) used to cost $10 surface, it now costs $35 but it does arrive within 10 days.
    What he said! Only Id say that like this

    MUCH HIGHER

    although I never waited 5 months for anything to arrive I can believe it... worst wait I had was 3 months and I was near on totally insane by that stage
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    i dont think they can charge me more actually because of two reasons.
    1) i sent an email asking how much postage would be for a 3-5kg package to nsw australia and they said under ten dollars.
    2) my order was over $500 so i qualify for free postage anyway and i couldnt find conditions that said they were to be only in america ( i shall read up on that again anyway.

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    I just got my first ebay package from the states, a birthday pressie to myself, 4 different sized unhandled slick chisels (1 1/4 inch to 2 3/4 inch) , a pile of mini files, and a gorgeous estwing leather handled hatchet.
    I wanted the slicks, and because the seller was going to combine postage, grabbed a couple of other things while at it (missed out on a couple of things I really wanted too- just went to bloody high).

    He charged me $38US for a priority airmail box, that can take a weight up to 20 pounds- its not exactly a big box. Reciept on the box shows he paid $37US- so one dollar extra for 6 different ebay items, well I am pretty happy with that.

    Apparantly this is the base way to do it now from the US.
    Though other sellers will no doubt run a bit of profit on top.

    btw
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    i must admit, I have a rather disgracefull chisel addiciton.

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    So who did he use as his carrier Hans? Very curious here as it may be helpfull for other ebayers and sellers in the states to know about alternatives
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