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21st January 2007, 08:31 PM #1Novice
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Need help with last row of T&G floorboards
Hi all,
Thanks to the heaps of info in this site I've managed to lay my spotted gum floorboards on ply over an old concrete slab. (T&G laid using Bostick Ultraset and secret nail every 4th/5th row). I picked up the floorboards (18mm T&G end matched) at auction in Canberra (rugged cover grade - but some pieces not even rubbish).
I put the job on hold over Xmas as me and the new toy (circular saw) did not work well when it came to ripping the final floorboard row to fit against the wall.
After searching the internet it sent me back to the little gauge sitting in the box that the saw came in but I had a brainwave and decided to speed things up. I called a chippy for a quote to finish for me. He suggested he could also use left over floorboards as skirting and proceeded to give me a lump sum quote (no detail) that would cost me almost as much than the professionals quoted to install the whole floor!!! Defeating the purpose of my hard (yet slow) work. So I'm back to DIY for ripping floorboards.
Also, what do you think of the suggestion to use leftovers for skirting? I know I can mitre to fit but should I leave the tongue or shear it off (back to the darn saw?)
If you guys could give me any hints to help me finish it would be greatly appreciated as the flatpack kitchen is still waiting
TJM
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21st January 2007, 08:40 PM #2SENIOR MEMBER
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I am not sure what you are asking about ripping the last board. Do you want to know how to rip it,or how to get it in or ???As for usinf the left over for skirting, you could do that, but you would need to cut off the tongue and dress the edge.Will that then match what ever is already in the house?
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21st January 2007, 09:13 PM #3Novice
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Sorry, I need to make a row of floorboards narrower to fit along the last wall - a full width floorboard is too wide. I am not good at straight cutting along the floorboard with my circular saw.
Re skirting boards - I have already ripped out the skirting from the rest of the place (carpets is going in the bedrooms).
thanks
Teresa
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21st January 2007, 09:46 PM #4
G'day.
Set the board on saw horses.
Set your saw fence to the size you need (fence to sawblade dimension).
Start at one end and finish at the other.
You know you have to leave a 12 mm gap between the floor and the wall?
This makes it easy to get the last board in.
I'd use pre-primed skirting. Buggerising around with recutting T&G will give you the screaming Sch1tz.
Glue and T/nail the last board.Hooroo.
Regards, Trevor
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21st January 2007, 09:49 PM #5
Hello Teresa, & welcome,
A host of questions come to mind, including how much allowance are you making for expansion, what are the dimensions of the T&G? and what other tools you have at your disposal, thicknesser? hand planes? handsaws?
If using leftovers for skirting materials one would imagine it would be a good idea to rip the tongue off and maybe try a new profile using a plane or router, otherwise it would look fairly average with the tongue poking upBruce C.
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21st January 2007, 09:51 PM #6
geez Trev that was quick off the mark .
Bruce C.
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21st January 2007, 10:01 PM #7
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21st January 2007, 10:25 PM #8Novice
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Gents, many thanks and in order of your questions:
(a) 12mm allowance on expansion (have the spacers)
(b) T&G is 80 x 18mm, varying lengths.
(c) have handplaner, handsaws - tenon, hacksaw etc
(d) Happy to rip off tongue but if it means using the circular saw too much then chances are minimal Any other way to neatly remove tongue? Dont have a router (yet) and tools and a straight line is still something I'm striving.
Also, to dress the pieces used for skirting presume that means sanding? (have a cheapo belt sander).
thanks
Teresa
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21st January 2007, 10:32 PM #9Novice
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22nd January 2007, 10:26 PM #10
The tongue can be removed reasonably quickly with a half decent handplane (#4 or up, would probably be best) .
Trevor means (I think) using the fence supplied with the circular saw set (the fence that is) to whichever width you need and keeping aforementioned fence to the truest edge rip away (whilst the timber is securely held down, by mechaical means of course)and voila the last board you need to lay is made. Alternatively take to local joinery shop and plead or pay to get them to rip it to size.Bruce C.
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23rd January 2007, 06:27 PM #11SENIOR MEMBER
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If you are not familiar with using the saw guide, it would be better to run it along the waste side of the board so that you don't risk running off and ruining the piece you want.
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2nd February 2007, 12:32 AM #12Novice
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Thanks for the info
Gents,
Sounding a bit clearer now, I'll let you know how things go
Many thanks
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3rd February 2007, 07:18 PM #13Intermediate Member
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Just take the board down to Magnet Mart and pay them a buck to rip it to size on their table saw. Bonus being that the cut is straight and all your fingers remain attached.
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3rd February 2007, 07:42 PM #14TIMBER FLOOR CONTRACTOR
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What i do is place the legnth of board to be ripped down at the spot it is going in. I then take a measurement every 500mm the width of the gap and deduck about 8mm. I then transfer that measurement onto the board. I then remove the bottom of the grove. I then join the dots along the board where the measurements have beem marked on to and then with my table saw cut of the bit i dont want. If you dont have a t/saw then use a power saw witrh the blade adjusted to the thickness of the board . i then apply glue on to the to of the tounge on the last board and then insert the ripped board. I cut up some small wedges and wedge the last board in to get a tight fit.
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21st May 2007, 11:43 PM #15Novice
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Update on progress
Figured it was time to finish the floorboard install as the new kitchen appliances have arrived and I've started putting together the Ikea kitchen cabinets that have been sitting around for umm.. a while.
Measured the boards and was heading down to MM to get them to cut to size when I realised the amount to remove was very small so I had an excuse to buy another new toy - electric planer...and it works really well for this job.
I read various comments (good, bad and ugly)on the forum while researching them and how to use one - but its sooo good. Last row along the wall is done.
Everyone, thanks for all your help and advice. (Larry, glue on tongue worked a treat and the final board is a nice fit.)
I'll start a new thread on the kitchen reno as I have a few questions that I haven't yet found answers to elsewhere in the forum.
cheers
Teresa
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