Where does the buck stop?

[jimbur]

With the revelations of the journalistic standard at the News of the World the question is, "how far up the command structure should the blame lie?"
Does it stop with the journalist, does it extend to the accounts department who must have approved some extremely dodgy expenses to unsavoury people, does it stop with the editor or is everyone to blame including the proprietor who, after all, is benefitting from a series of apparent crimes?
Cheers,
JIm

[rsser]

Who is going to sack Rupert?

And now the can of worms is open, police are investigating other Brit newspapers.

I suppose there's been a code of conduct, self-regulated of course.

Worth as much as a verbal contract.

[wheelinround]

They sign checks on behalf of Murdoch the board and its shareholders plain and simple. The board could not deny knowledge as it has benefited, no different to Gillard, Rudd or any Prime Minister or cabinet who also has reaped the benefits.

You rally think it stops at just mobiles, not so long ago people were wondering how secure Facebook & Twitter pages were being accessed.

When visiting OS webites and media pages how come I still get Aussie advertising. Does this mean Bigpond is permitting access?

[jimbur]

I agree with you in practice Ern but if our jaundiced view is correct it makes a mockery of the corporations act and puts certain individuals above the law - able to reap the benefits of being a company yet being so powerful that the restrictions put on your neighbourhood chippy and plumbing companies do not seem to apply.
What did the reporters tell the editors when asked how they got the information on which the stories were based? Or even worse, didn't they ask?
Cheers,
Jim

[jimbur]

When visiting OS webites and media pages how come I still get Aussie advertising. Does this mean Bigpond is permitting access?

This is something that is not amenable to proof but, many years ago, I would go in a UK chatroom and we would chat about this that and the other. It always struck me that the spam directed to my email account (not bigpond) seemed to reflect some of the topics of conversation.
Cheers,
Jim

[AlexS]

I find it difficult to believe that a megalomaniac like the dirty digger would allow this to happen without his knowledge, and none of his underlings would be game to do or allow it without his say-so.
Given the number of Australian journos that have done a stint at News of the Screws, what are the odds that the same thing ins going on at the Daily Smellograph and other Murdoch rags in Australia?

[wheelinround]

After watching the news and recalling recently Murdochs announcement that News Of The World would be charging for Net access it suddenly struck a cord.

$$$$$$$$$$$

Lets start at the top where are all the labor workers, unions etc going bonkers about being unemployed outcrys grieving mother and kids???? Ever person that came out of the building was cheering.

One building up for sale $$$$$$$$$$, no new machines to print required, sold off $$$$$$.

BSKYB rejected

[kiwigeo]

News of the World and other gutter tabloids would fold overnight if there wasn't a mass of people willing to pay to read the rubbish printed within.

[MatMann]

When visiting OS webites and media pages how come I still get Aussie advertising. Does this mean Bigpond is permitting access?

thats simply a google or some other ad network using your IP address which can be obtained from any web browser and displaying and ad relevant to you location. nothing sinister there

[wheelinround]

thats simply a google or some other ad network using your IP address which can be obtained from any web browser and displaying and ad relevant to you location. nothing sinister there

Not sinister?? It is illegal as its stealing!! from your limits yo do not give them permission and you can not stop it with add pop up stuff. For starters being allowed to happen by whom? Your ISP?? They wonder how hackers crackers and spam get in. A few years ago SMH found advertisers were allowing spam stuff into the adds. You sure its not sinister!!

[hughie]

Given that News of the World has had reputation for this type of journalism for at least 40 years that I know of and was well known in Fleet st for it.

I spent some time working in Fleet St in the 70's and it was a small community, this of sort carry on would have had tacit approval from the top at the very least.

Simply put, bad news sells better than good and muck.........

[jimbur]

, this of sort carry on would have had tacit approval from the top at the very least.
Simply put, bad news sells better than good and muck.........

This confirms what I've been thinking Hughie.
Another problem that has arisen through the use of illegal taps etc has been the finger-pointing. At least one person was sacked from their job because it was thought that they were leaking information to the press. Also imagine the bereaved families looking sideways at their relatives and friends and wondering if one of them had passed on personal information.
The closure was inevitable because without advertising it would have run at a loss. The muck-eating punters aren't enough to keep a newspaper going. Then you get into the amorality of advertisers - never-ending story.
Cheers,
Jim

[rsser]

If you want to read some quality, independent long-form journalism, I can recommend www.probpublica.org

They also offer a Smartphone app.

[jimbur]

If you want to read some quality, independent long-form journalism, I can recommend www.probpublica.org

They also offer a Smartphone app.

That's www.propublica.org
Thanks Ern
Cheers,
Jim

[jimbur]

It seems to be getting worse. 'Rumours' are coming out about Murdoch's other UK papers.
Cheers,
Jim