Oil and gas....I love my job!!

[wireliner]

With the increase in drilling technology, deep shale gas/oil deposits being discovered and the opportunity to see very cool stuff like this...I really do love my industry and the jobs it creates.

[rod1949]

So do you want to tell us what it is?

[AlexS]

Where's that?

[underfoot]

..is that a fracking rig?..

[rwbuild]

If it is for fracking, you can fracking well take the fracking thing back!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wireliner]

That is the mast being raised on a drilling rig and yes the completed well will be fracked. But this happens over 9000ft underground, around Moomba, SA, so there is no damage to sensitive aquifers. Shallow fracking, such as Coal Sea Gas work, is shallow and does cause issues. There is no doubting that.

[BobL]

That is the mast being raised on a drilling rig and yes the completed well will be fracked. But this happens over 9000ft underground, around Moomba, SA, so there is no damage to sensitive aquifers. Shallow fracking, such as Coal Sea Gas work, is shallow and does cause issues. There is no doubting that.

I don't see how anyone could "love" any energy generating industry that eventually generates large amounts of CO2.
When are we going to start thinking a bit more long term.

[wireliner]

Not too sure how your chainsaw mill would go on solar Bob. Upstream petroleum industries develop very little CO2 emissions. It is what happens after that is where the problem lays. Cows produce more nasties than us.

[BobL]

Not too sure how your chainsaw mill would go on solar Bob. Upstream petroleum industries develop very little CO2 emissions. It is what happens after that is where the problem lays.

That's my point.
When the time comes I'll be happy to run a CS on some form of biofuel.
As for cows, two wrongs never made a right - anyway we should all be eating less meat and more veg.

Our great great grandkids will see O&G energy generation a bit like the tobacco industry. "You did WHAT with it?" "You burned IT"?

[rustynail]

My son is an Electrical/Instrumentation Engineer in this field. He wants to get out. Reckons he feels like a hypocrite.

[Evanism]

We think we are so clever. In 500 years, whole counties will have a national grave pissing day. They will curse us for the irreversible catastrophe we left behind.

Fracking is satans own tool. Can you imagine the insanity of deliberately shattering rock with toxic cancerous chemicals and deliberately and permanently infecting drinking water FOREVER to persue some short term profit? Or WORSE, speculative profit that never materialises to then walk away?

Pure criminal insanity.

There will be a comeuppance.

[rustynail]

We think we are so clever. In 500 years, whole counties will have a national grave pissing day. They will curse us for the irreversible catastrophe we left behind.

Fracking is satans own tool. Can you imagine the insanity of deliberately shattering rock with toxic cancerous chemicals and deliberately and permanently infecting drinking water FOREVER to persue some short term profit? Or WORSE, speculative profit that never materialises to then walk away?

Pure criminal insanity.

There will be a comeuppance.

I think it will be a lot sooner than that. We've only been here for a couple of hundred years and look at the damage done already.

[wireliner]

I totally agree with preventing fracking on shallow holes or in geo-sensitive areas. That is irresponsible and dangerous. However in conventional gas deposits in the Cooper basin, it doesn't affect any possible, usable aquifers at all.

One more thing, fracking is done with artificial sand pumped under pressure. Non toxic, not cancer causing, just small ceramic balls.

[BobL]

Despite my comments about this I am also a bit of a realist from a number of perspectives.
Energy wise we definitely need responsible O&G to help us to transit to a more sustainable energy footing but I see little evidence of this being supported or happening.
In a similar way, if O&G wasn't taking up the slack in mining in WA we (and I mean all of Oz) would be starting to go down the gurgler.
My other concern is the way mining and O&G is being handled financially i.e.given away for peanuts and making a very small % of the population wealthy.
We should be looking at what countries like Norway are doing with the O&G futures fund making them the amongst the richest people on the planet.
All I see in our future is big dirty holes in the ground and a filthy overheated atmosphere and not much else to show for it.

[wireliner]

Thank you Bob. I totally agree. We have the largest deposits of natural gas on the planet. It is up to us how we use it for future generations and how it can lead to alternate energy. To many people forget, including my own wife, that the gas on their stove, the hot water in the shower, comes from SA/SWQ!

These areas are fracked with no affect on groundwater.

I have a pic of frac sand if you are interested.