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  1. #1
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    Default Wipe-on Poly on Huon Pine: Problems

    Hi,
    I have turned+carved a bowl in a very soft piece of Huon Pine (see attachment) and I decided to finish it with Wipe-On Poly (never used before).
    I followed the instructions on the can to the letter but I am now in troubles.
    I am at the third coat and although it has been drying for 3 days, it still feels wet and sticky.
    I am even afraid to touch the bowl with my fingers!
    Do you have any idea where I went wrong?
    Is anybody there with experience on using Wipe-On Poly?
    Any comment-suggestion is appreciated
    Thanks a lot

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    Huon Pine is an oily timber and this may be your problem here causing the WOP not to dry. It's a good idea to wipe HP over with Meths before applying a finish to help absorb some of the oil. You may have been better off applying a finish something like tung oil. I'm sure someone on the forum will be able to make a better suggestion.
    Atmospheric conditions can also slow up the drying process of a WOP finish.

    Nice bowl by the way.
    Reality is no background music.
    Cheers John

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    A sealer such as shellac is needed on Huon Pine before applying poly. John

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    What shall I do now? strip off the 3 coats of WOP and strart again?
    Thanks for the help

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    Gosh that is a pickle. Looks like such a lovely piece in a lovely piece of timber.

    I've used WOP on several projects with success but never on huon. And I've certainly have had oily problems with huon.

    What I'd suggest, though no expert, would be to leave it for a few more days. This cold snap and rain wouldn't be helping. If it doesn't settle, strip it, re-sand it, wipe it with metho, and re-apply the WOP. Bummer.
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    Default I did use Metho first

    By the way: I forgot to say earlier that I wiped the bowl with a clean cloth soaked in metho as first operation, to make sure there was no fine sanding leftover, and I used a generous amount of metho for that.
    From what you guys are saying, I gather one should not apply WOP over a previous oil coating isn't it?
    Cheers Maurizio

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    You could do as suggested above and leave it for a few days but if there is no improvement I think the only thing you can do is to sand it back to scratch removing all WOP and apply a coat of Dewaxed white shellac and finish with Traditional wax. Both these products are available from U-Beaut polishes

    Carba-tec also carry the Ubeaut range of products.
    Reality is no background music.
    Cheers John

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    Minwax make a finish remover that is supposed to be kinder to timber than paint strippers. I really don't know if this is true or how good it is, but it could be an easy option to remove the finish without doing any damage to your beautiful work. It's sold alongside Wipe On Poly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by munruben View Post
    apply a coat of Dewaxed white shellac and finish with Traditional wax.
    I'd second this recommendation. Dewaxed white shellac on Huon Pine all the way. It's never failed me and keeps the beautiful huon colour.

    Beautiful bowl by the way.
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    Default Started all over

    Hi Guys,
    In the end the WOP never dried completely so I took a deep breath and ....sanded it all over again (third time!) from 80 to 600 grit.
    Now I am inclined to use Shellac but I never used it before so ...here are some questions:
    - I have Shellac flakes: do I make my own Shellac or should I buy a ready made one? Which one?
    - Do I apply Shellac with a brush or with a cloth?
    - Where can I read a bit about using Shellac?
    - Shall I add any stain to the Shellac?
    Any suggestions are welcome.
    Thanks a lot for all your patience and wisdom.
    Cheers Maurizio

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    Default Another bowl

    Guys,
    It sounds like you liked my bowl so I decided to post the picture of another one made with timber from the same log (I wish I had more!).
    This one finished well in oil....sort of ...
    Thanks
    Maurizio

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    It's a bit late now but the number two rule after measure twice an cut once, is test your finish on an off cut. Especially on such a beautiful piece that must have taken much time and effort.
    This is for other readers of this thred , you've probably worked this out the hard way.
    Hugh

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    Your bowls are stunning. As for finishing, you could paint the second one black for all I care and it would still be beautiful.
    Pugwash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pugwash View Post
    Your bowls are stunning. As for finishing, you could paint the second one black for all I care and it would still be beautiful.
    Wash your mouth out PW black in deed

    Love the bowls by the way Maurizio


    Waht has been said about Huon and oily wood and WoP

    Maybe you need a quicker drying finish for such items more like a spray on lacquer Timberlac or Wattle Style wood again a wipe prior spraying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maurizio1955 View Post
    Guys,
    It sounds like you liked my bowl so I decided to post the picture of another one made with timber from the same log (I wish I had more!).
    This one finished well in oil....sort of ...
    Thanks
    Maurizio
    Beautiful work, love it.
    You can find a little information here regarding Shellac. Might be an idea to purchase This plenty of good advice there.
    Reality is no background music.
    Cheers John

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