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22nd January 2012, 06:24 PM #1GOLD MEMBER
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Jet jpt310-hh
Rather than hijacking someone elses thread I thought i'd start a new one.
I'm looking at upgrading my machinary at the end of the year. I have a seperate jointer and thicknesser set up at the moment as I have the space.
I never really considered a combination machine as I always thought they were time consuming to change from jointing to thicknessing. After doing some research i'm amazed at how easy they are and i'm seriouslly considering a combo.
The way I look at it is that if you purchased each mode seperately, you'd be paying upwards of $4500.
If I was to get a combo, it will either be the Hammer A3 31 or the Jet JPT 310 HH. Iv'e found some good reviews on the Hammer but can't find much on the Jet with the HH.
If you own one (Jet) or have used one i'm very interested to know what your thoughts are. I'm really curious to know how it goes with reversing/difficult grained timbers. I can't seem to find prices online either, it looks like they were $2800 when they came out - is this still the case or are they back up to $3800ish?
Alternatively, if you could spend around the $4000 mark, what would you buy (either seperate machines or a combo).
At the moment I have a Delta benchtop thicknesser and a Carbatec 8" jointer.
Thankyou,
Andy
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22nd January 2012, 10:58 PM #2Senior Member
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base model $2850
Gregory Machinery - Combination - Jet JPT 310
So add $1000 for the HH.
Search youtube for JJP12 - the american name for it and you will see a couple of reviews.
As mentioned in the other thread I havent given it a proper beating yet, but it looks pretty good at this stage. With the mobile base its is rock solid and easy to move around the workshop.
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23rd January 2012, 10:39 AM #3GOLD MEMBER
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Thanks for the reply.
I got a quote today for $3700. It's down to the Hammer (A3 31) and Jet if I decide to go for the combo.
Andy
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23rd January 2012, 11:00 AM #4The Russel Coyte of Woodworking
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Hello mate
I have the 310 HH and its a great machine!!
I bought it because I aquired some mega hard spotted gum from the wharfs and the 10' combo machine was not going to cut it.
The 310 HH made mince meat out of this timber and I am very suprised how easly it handled this timber.
I have been abusing this machine and it just laps it up, the blades are getting a little worn and I reckon I will flip them soon.
Cant speak highly enough about the Jet. I got mine for $2950 - thats the HH.
Good luck!
Milo
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23rd January 2012, 06:02 PM #5GOLD MEMBER
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I'd love to use the Jet before I invested big money. Is there anyone in Sydney or Townsville (moving there on Sunday) with one that would be happy to show me - with HH or without?
My biggest concern is that i'll get annoyed with changing over between operations...
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Andy
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23rd January 2012, 08:55 PM #6The Russel Coyte of Woodworking
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Andy
I understand you are a catious buyer but trust me on this one, the Jet is soooo easy to use. switching between thicky and jointer is well ......a piece of . (Where did they saying come from....)
Anyway......just go the HH, its brilliant.
The thicky is spot on and the guage is spot on, I planed some thick stock down to 100mm and it was ...spot on.
For the money there is nothing in the range that compares.
Good luck.
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23rd January 2012, 11:43 PM #7
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24th January 2012, 10:13 AM #8GOLD MEMBER
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It sounds like I cant go wrong with the Jet.
Whenever I choose timber for a project I always look at the grain and how my machines will handle it (tearout etc). I'd love to be able to use any grained timber within reason and run it through the helical head and get almost tearout free results - is this the sort of thing I can expect from the Jet?
I ofcourse have a scraper plane to fix any tearout but on large tablet tops etc but it would be nice to have a nice finish from the jointer/thicknesser.
Cheers
Andy
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24th January 2012, 11:09 AM #9The Russel Coyte of Woodworking
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Mate
This 100 year old haf timber I lugged home is the hardest, meanest, dirtiest son of a bitch timber I have ever seen, Even IanW who is super experienced in the game...shook his head with disbalief! I tried to had plane some stuff and gave up after two minutes.
The Jet just sat back, sipped on a Bacardi and cola whilst puffing a Cuban cigar..... I was the one sweating like a contestant from the Biggest Loser.
Tear out, what tear out?
Another example is I hand jointed and planed some panels when I started out, I did a horrible job and through them up in the rafters for two years. This stuff is Amora an Indo hard wood. I whipped the pannels out the othr day and had them jointed and thicky'd in 10 minutes....perfect.
This machine has made my woodworking experience a joy! For a novice like me all I have to do it concentrate on joinery and getting that right. I now finish my projects with a glimer of pride knowing that things are flat and square.....
I ummm'd and aaaar'd over the same dilema for quite some time. Best investment I have made.
Milo
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24th January 2012, 05:47 PM #10GOLD MEMBER
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How do you find the length of the jointer table - 1400mm? Does this limit the Jet in any way in regards to jointing long pieces?
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Andy
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24th January 2012, 06:21 PM #11The Russel Coyte of Woodworking
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mate
Yes, I am stretching the friendship at the moment with this wharf timber, the stretches for my bench are around the 1.8 mark I think so yes for seriously huge timber you are going to be pushing the friendship to the limit but ask yourself how often are you going to be putting long pieces through?
I use rollers for infeed and outfeed support and it works fine, not ideal but I have a spare set of hands when it comes to these long very heavy boards. I should really take it down to wood and u as they have a 12 incher biggin. Yet saying that I grab my neighbour when I have big jobs like this and the Jet still does very well.
For me, I make picture frames and boxes most of the time and it laps it up. I can't think of a combo machine for the price hat can compete. The Hammer is much more and honestly for my needs the Jet is overkill.
The Woodfast at 1600 bucks is a good cheap option too and does the job.
I think its easy to rely too much on machines too, I still turn to the trusty no7 hand plane if need be.
To answer your question ...the table is long enough for me.
I think about bang for buck...
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24th January 2012, 06:50 PM #12I should really take it down to wood and u as they have a 12 incher biggin.
I take it as a do it yourself type and use our machinery type place.
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25th January 2012, 11:58 AM #13The Russel Coyte of Woodworking
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Wood N You - Board Timber Hire - You do it!
Mate, I haven't actually been there yet but others have told me that its not bad!
My issue is/was that I had recycled timber and although I have a metal detector they charge a $150 surcharge on recycled stuff.
If you have new timber then great they have a huge 12 inch jointer with looong beds so it would make quick work of any timber.
Cheers
Milo
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