Ya wanna ute?

[ivanavitch]

First the story

My young bloke (may his rear end be kicked up around his neck for scaring the daylights out of his dear mother) elected to steer his year old Mazda3 into the end of a guard rail, rather than harm poor old skippy. Skippy stood by and watched the guard rail disappear through the front guard, gearbox, front suspension, left hand guard etc to the sound of popping airbags, seat belt tensioners and tearing metal. He walked away with no scratches and no visible bruises. Not bad for a 100kph encounter with taxpayer funded roadside accessory.

Now the question.
He's got his heart set on a ute. FORD or HOLDEN? We are both supercar fans with leanings towards the blue oval, but parting with 30K should be a head decision rather than a heart.

How do they size up? Is the Ford plastic tray serviceable. Is it better to go for the full metal jacket of the General. How do they both hold their value. I think he really wants the XR6. How do you rate the Holden in the looks department.

Whatever the decision we are still off to the mountain next weekend for the annual religious pilgrimage and will still be barracking for the Fords.

I'll put my money where my mouth is and call the result - Ingall and Murphy with a boxing of Seaton and Lowndes for third.

regards

John Scott

[doug the slug]

He's got his heart set on a ute. FORD or HOLDEN?

How about a nice orange Triton ute??

[E. maculata]

Not sure how much help I'll be but I'll relate the tale anyhow.
Young Jackaroo/cowboy (the real thing I might add) mate of mine diehard holden nut, 4 kingys in shed, two utes 1 202 & 1 308 both HJs, came into around seventy grand went to town to buy the best ute he could.....
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and came home a few weeks later with an XR8??????? :eek:
apparently the general wasn't in the hunt as far as all round value and options.

[ele__13]

its gotta be a holden Stuff the ford C*&P .... but hey ive been a holden lover since day one my daddy was a holden Mech !!! .... as much as Craig is a great guy and family friend he drives for the wong team these days cheers jules and buy a real car !!!!!! its gotta be a holden or a Subaru !!!!!!!

[Wood Butcher]

My Dad recently purchased a holden VY trayback ute for work and is now regretting the decision. It has been back on warranty 4 times now for varying things and it is not that comfortable to drive. The mirrors do not go far out from the body enough to se what is behind you and the fuel comsumption is horrific (my '91 triton is comparable).
Just my thoughts on the subject

[Daddles]

Why on earth would he want a Holden? Erk. Horrible things. Stick with the Falchoon - much more betterer in every respect.

Richard

[Schtoo]

Seriously? You really want to know what I suggest?

I had a Hilux diesel 4WD.

And I really wish I still had it. Cheap to run, very little trouble (popped a diff after 300,000km or so), nice enough to drive, kept me out of trouble with Dan P's crowd, just a really good old bus.

However, I'd give my lefty for one of them turbo ford things from what I hear. Offer only stands if it ends up on my doorstep...

[Harry72]

Id advise buy whats best deal on the day...
And never buy a tub/style side ute because they are useless buy a tray top, I learnt the hard way brought a new BA V8 falcordoor style side... aboslutley useless if you intent to use it as a ute ya cant fit bugger all in thats long or big in size, you cant load anything on with a fork lift without stuffing about with lifting slings.
Tray back utes are way better for work anyday... but if its just a town/sports ute that'll only ever carry small weight/size stuff that can be handled by hand go the style side.

[Gingermick]

If has crashes at 100kph then I'd be insisting he buy either a goggo mobile or a scooter or something else that can't reach 100.

[DanP]

If he can't keep a Mazda 3 on the road, how will he go in an XR6.

I would get the Holden. Ford XR8 is faster (top speed) than the SS (DAMHIK) and is slightly more comfy to sit in, but the SS holds the road MUCH better. That's what I've found in sedans anyway.

Dan

BTW. From experience, he's lucky the rail didn't end up in (or through) his lap.

[Zed]

I suggest a toyota 4x4 king cab with alu or steel tray, you can chose your engine. otherwise the the holden rodeo v6 4x4 or 2x4.

my toyo 4x4 2.7Petrol is great. recomend it highly.

I understand that the holden ss utes are wank mobiles and cant haul that much and the fords a prone to breaking down, hwever the leaf springs do make them a genuine one tonner.

whats your son want the ute for; wanking or working ? all the serious tradies I know have mazda and toyo utes.

whatever you do dont let him get a 4 cyl with a psuedo-muffer you can get your arm in up to your armpits - WOFTAM!

cheers...

[JDarvall]

You want a ute !!!!!!

Bloody hell ! ...thats a bit rude isn't it, coming onto complete strangers like that. :mad:

I'm already spoken for , thankyou very much ! :mad:

[Ashore]

You want a ute !!!!!!

Actually its

Ya Wanna ute ?

Which I think is some Native American Dance



The trouble with life is there's no background music.

[ivanavitch]

Thanks guys
I think he is set on the ford.

Dan
That was the bit that scared the c**p out of me. Because of airbags, seatbelts, crumple zones and all the rest he probably doesn't realise how bloody lucky he was. As previously stated he needs his rear end kicked. Our insurance company offers good deals on driver training post actually getting your licence. I'll have to get back on his case. Because he has had his licence for a while now he probably thinks he knows more than me and I just get his back up when I try to correct a few of the little habits he is developing.

Are the insurance company sponsored driving courses worth it - not worth money, but actually teach them something? Any statistics on increasing their safety awareness, and ability to keep themselves alive?

Harry
It will mainly be a transport to work/weekend hack. Nothing larger than an 8x4 sheet which their brochures say will fit between the wheel arches.

[RETIRED]

Are the insurance company sponsored driving courses worth it - not worth money, but actually teach them something? Any statistics on increasing their safety awareness, and ability to keep themselves alive?

They are if the lessons sink in.

I have done a few defensive driving courses and the lessons learnt in car control are worth it BUTsome people come away with the attitude that I can go quicker now because I have learnt how to get out of trouble.

They don't realise that in most cases they still don't have the ability or experience to "read" the situation correctly and get into more strife,