Rust Prevention Product Review - Your Help & Input appreciated

[simonmags]

Rust Prevention Product Review - Your Help Input appreciated

I have been reading through the forums on rust prevention and see that it has not been covered for at least a month There seem to be so many differeing opionions so I though it was time to open another place where, everyone, can have there say about different products.

I'd love to hear from anyone that has used any of the following and is able to give a brief review any of these products: (I may have some of the categories wrong, let me know if so

Oil Based products:
Linseed Oil
3 in 1 Oil
Boiled Linseed Oil
Vegetable Oil

Lanolin based Products:
Inox
Lanox
Lanogard
Lanotec

Wax Based Products:
Ubeaut Traditional Wax
Black Bison Fine Wax

VCI Products:
(Vapour Corrosion Inhibitors)
ZeRust Drawer Liners
ZeRust Vapour Capsules

Other:
Sliver Glide (Silber Gleit)
Boesheild T9
G15
WD-40
Talcum Powder
Wax paper
Silicon Spray (This will adversly affect some wood finishing i.e. glue and varnish don't stick to it)

[RossM]

Interestingly, I helped my daughter with her year 9 science project late last year, and she picked rust prevention as the topic.

I don't have the project to hand, but this is my recollection. She tested vegetable oil, camelia oil, vasoline, lithium grease, WD-40 and G15 The experiment was fairly crude empirical effort, with the results based purely on observation, not any sort of objective measurement. A pack of 6" bright iron nails was purchased, the nails were soaked in solvent for a while (Shellite as I recall) to remove any grease, then washed in detergent, then boiled to get rid of any residue, then they were dried using a hair dryer.

Preventative treatment was applied to to 2 nails each (14 nails in total, as one pair was left untreated as a "control") and allowed to sit for a couple of hours.

The nails were pierced through dampened blotting paper to keep them separated an equal distance & to allow an ID number to be placed on each nail (so we could tell which treatment had been applied to which nail). These were then placed inside a large plastic tub with a close fitting lid, with a layer of damp sponge on the bottom. The whole lot was misted with a fine spray of quite salty water. The tub was left in a warm area of the house & provided high humidity. When coupled with the salt spray this was a pretty hostile environment, designed to encourage rust.

Observations were made every 12 hours over several days. Results were interesting. The lithium grease actually seemed to exascerbate the rust, and by the end the lithium grease coated nails were more deeply covered in rust than the untreated controls. WD-40 and vegetable oil seemed to offer only marginal protection. Camelia oil was slightly better - and about the same as vasoline. However all the nails had considerable rust at the end of the observations.

The Ferro-Pak G15 was a standout. There were a few very small spots of rust developing on one nail, otherwise they remained bright & shiny. This has born out my experience of G15 as being far & away the best anti rust treatment I have used. (And no, I don't have any affiliation with the product other than as a user)

[WillyInBris]

You didn't mention Lanotec

[simonmags]

I'll mention it if you review it

[WillyInBris]

I'll mention it if you review it

Not sure if I can then It would be seen as advertising as I run the plant that makes the Lanotec products and I think that would been seen as bias but would love to hear other peoples thoughts good and bad as well.

I do use them though.

[Sturdee]

Not sure if I can then It would be seen as advertising as I run the plant that makes the Lanotec products and I think that would been seen as bias but would love to hear other peoples thoughts good and bad as well.

I do use them though.

I would not consider it out of place if you reviewed your products here with your interest already made known here.

May be beneficial for comparison.


Peter.

[China]

Have a look here (post No. 8) https://www.woodworkforums.com/f13/ru...le-saw-125178/

[pixelwebsecrets]

This one never failed me. I usually use it on hard to loose bolts, stucked doors and even preventing water and rust to electronics

[Rifleman1776]

I consistently have had good protection from WD-40 for short term storage and even some long term. I use it on guns and tools. Admittedly, my environment is not as harsh as the experiment mentioned.
Being in the U.S. I use products available here, naturally.
A gun grease known as RIG gives excellent long term protection.
For tools, guns, knives and delicate parts I use a spray from a gunsmith supply company known as Rust Gard. It leaves a waxy film on the surface and has never failed me.
For routine protection on cast iron tools (table saw, lathe, etc.) I use a popular paste wax known as Johnsons.
Ole time techniques involved sperm whale oil with beeswax, bear oil/grease.

[powderpost]

The tables on my bandsaw, tablesaw and surfacer get sanded with the belt sander then rubbed down with Ubeaut trad wax, usually once a year. This prevents adhesives sticking to the surfaces, prevents rust and provides a smooth surface for the timber to slide on. Admittedly I do not have an aggressive environment.
Jim

[Bob38S]

Not a particular type of rust preventative but an excellent applicator for which ever type you prefer.

https://www.woodworkforums.com/f11/ch...t-rust-103526/

[simonmags]

Handy tip there Bob (what do you soak your felt in?). I'll see if I can find someone with a wood lathe to turnn up a felt holder on Or I'll scour op shops to find a suitable tin. So i see a few people out there who are happy with WD-40 as a short term /medium lubricant. (That's what I am currently using to keep my bench planes rust free, they are also in a sealed box) Others who use traditional wax type things on tools such as the bench saw.

WillyInBris any chance you want to provide us with some more information on Lanotech, especially if thats what you use at home...

Thanks for the vote for Lanolin china, you reminded me that I have not included bacon or lamb fat on my list

Anyone out there using boiled linseed oil mixtures that can share a recipe with us?

[China]

Just to make things clear the Lanolin product I used was Lanotec

[Bob38S]

G'day Simonmags,

Got a few of them, one just machine oil, one with Birchwood Casey gun oil - which is a synthetic oil.

Re the turned holder for the felt - I think you may find a problem with the wood absorbing the lube. Boot polish tins are good but pipe tobacco tins would work just as easily and would also give a variety of sizes should you want to go larger in diameter.

[DoctorBobski]

I use G15 on my planes, saws and chisels. Even with all the moisture up here I haven't got any rust. A quick spray after I'm finished working seems to keep it at bay. I use Top Saver to clean the surfaces of my machines followed by Silver Glide. This also holds the rust at bay. The only problem with silver glide is if a droplet of sweat gets on it it seems to rust really fast. A quick scrub with top saver and a scourer seems to clear that up. Hope that helps.