Does the Internet belong to one country?

[Big Shed]

It appears Stephen Conroy is only playing in the Junior League with his Internet filter (rumoured to be abandoned)

Obama internet 'kill switch' proposed

Frightening prospect indeed

[Sebastiaan56]

Conroy's plan is ridiculous and will make the insulation scandal look like minor cheese.

My understanding is that there are 2 internets, the one we are on here and a military one that no one knows about. The one we are on is supposed to be hosted on millions of local servers to keep the distribution non local and therefore avoid catastrophic failure. I dont know how he could bring it down in China, Russia etc. The military one would not be a problem I suspect.

[HazzaB]

Hey Fred,

You are right a very frightening thought, we were without Internet on Wednesday for about 6-7 hours, and the locals still haven't stopped talking about that, "couldn't check the weather to see if I could go and play golf" was the silliest thing I heard.
How would the economy work if all the money doesn't get swapped about in cyber space every night (except friday, saturday and sunday), and how would we get our gear so we can go into the shed??? It's too much I'm going for a lay down.

HazzaB

[Pusser]

Conroy's plan is ridiculous and will make the insulation scandal look like minor cheese.

My understanding is that there are 2 internets, the one we are on here and a military one that no one knows about. The one we are on is supposed to be hosted on millions of local servers to keep the distribution non local and therefore avoid catastrophic failure. I dont know how he could bring it down in China, Russia etc. The military one would not be a problem I suspect.

How do you know about the one that nobody knows about?
The internet was developed so that a nuclear strike could not bring down the ability to exercise command and control as the network did not depend on any single server or path between points.

[Groggy]

There is one internet and a number of military intranets. The military intranets are firewalled from the internet and can be cut off instantly if desired.

Most militaries have both a restricted and a classified intranet, only the restricted intranet having a portal to the internet itself. There is no 'military internet' as such (unless you still count the ARPANET as military) though there are some very large military networks.

[Waldo]

What a complete demonstration of arrogance.

Bluddy

[hughie]

...and they wonder why we call them some of them seppos. Arrogance out of control to believe its their national asset.

I dare say if they did, it would arise again slowly off shore and there the control would totally gone for ever, then what?

[blackhole]

I am sure the terrorists have other means of communicating rather than relying on the internet.

Either the political forces that are driving this idea are really stupid or they are using it as a smoke screen to hide their real agenda.

[Sebastiaan56]

There is one internet and a number of military intranets. The military intranets are firewalled from the internet and can be cut off instantly if desired.

Most militaries have both a restricted and a classified intranet, only the restricted intranet having a portal to the internet itself. There is no 'military internet' as such (unless you still count the ARPANET as military) though there are some very large military networks.

Thanks for clearing that up Groggy, it is probably the intranets I have been told about and misunderstood.

[cultana]

...and they wonder why we call them some of them seppos.

Long time since I have heard that out in public.. Normally confined to an old group from the 60's/70s.

[cultana]

To some extent such a move will only hurt the US side as they will be locked behind the switch.

Each country has its own intranet and in essence the internet only links up each country. Yes it would mean that you could not access your favorite tool supplier in the US.
India is one country that will suffer badly as it is full of outsource industries linked to US companies.

[jimbur]

Yes it would mean that you could not access your favorite tool supplier in the US.

Now where did I put my fountain pen

[paulsmithx]

It gets better...privacy?

Web snooping policy shrouded in secrecy

[cultana]

It gets better...privacy?

Web snooping policy shrouded in secrecy

And you are surprised??

[two fingers]

...and they wonder why we call them some of them seppos. Arrogance out of control to believe its their national asset.

I dare say if they did, it would arise again slowly off shore and there the control would totally gone for ever, then what?

Now try reading post #14 and tell me what you think of the aussie government attitude...

For the most part most countries are latch ons to what the US and Canada developed - the internet. If Australia is too cheap to develop their own in country network that doesn't rely on outside influence for it's access to the rest of the world then that's their problem not the US's.

I don't think it takes a genius to see why such a plan would be put in place... It's ridiculous and stupid to think they would try to turn off the internet on a whim as some are alluding to here. I know you all hate the US but come on folks think a bit. No more threatening than suspending air traffic during 9/11 or... when a volcano erupts... the stuff of conspiracies.