Two worthwhile articles on Islam in Australia

[Gunnaduit]

Just read a couple of worthwhile recent pieces on Islam in Australia. Though a warning if you are 'PC' - these are not written by apologists. But they aren't crazy-right either.

Geoffrey Luck on 13 September:
Muslims Are What Muslims Believe
"This is what makes it so difficult for the West to understand and combat Islamic terror: the cleverness with which religion has been intertwined with politics to justify and legitimise brutality. In the name of Allah, killing becomes holy killing and evil is His holy tool ..."
https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/...slims-believe/

Lawrence Cross on 18 September:
A Deadly Mix of Tribalism and Religion
"This morning's news of massive anti-terror raids in Australian cities is a reminder that the threat of bombings and mayhem, shocking as they are, represent no more than symptoms of a religious tribalism's threaten to the fabric and functioning of the nation-state ..."
https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/201...lism-religion/

P.S. I don't necessarily agree with everything that is on the Quadrant website - some things I completely disagree with and other things I'm doubtful of at best. But the above articles I thought were good.

[Opelblues2]

thanks for the link, lately I have been reading a lot in regards to this world issue. and have found that when information I put up one the web it get removed fast.

[jhovel]

Listen guys. Let's not get sucked into the Islamist/anti-islamist debate. Terrorism has nothing to do with religion. Religion ist just a convenient excuse for otherwise inexcusable behavior.
The only pity is that Muslims are so frightened to condemn other Muslims for their transgressions against the religion. Most are just as horrified as everyone else.
Joe

[silentC]

Some of them are getting a bit fed up with it all though:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-2...-state/5761392

[Moti]

And here's something a little more balanced

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...-stay-the-same

Also do a bit of research on Keith Windschuttle, the editor of Quadrant - he's not a disinterested commentator...

[FenceFurniture]

Quadrant seems to be overly anti-PC it would seem. Not quite sure what their agenda is, but it sure seems to reek of White Australia, the extreme right, and supra-conservative.

A selection of the topics on the front page:

On Islam (and related) (and all published since September 19th)
From Kitchen to Lakemba's Cauldron
The Jihadis next door
By the Will of Allah...and Centrelink
Islam a threat? Bet your freedom on it.
Deadly mix of tribalism and religion

Indigenous Australians:
Traditional Culture invented yesterday
Genuinely Stolen?
Recognise the Retreat


On Global Warming:
The Best the IPCC can do
Climate "Refugee" left high and dry
Big Govt, big waste, bigger fires
Mercury Rising, Mercury Falling
When the Teacher is a dunce
What if the planet is cooling?
Obama's man goes cool on warming


No, they won't be getting my $55 subscription fee. There may perhaps be better balanced and informed opinions available for free.

[Gunnaduit]

I don't necessarily agree with everything that is on the Quadrant website - some things I completely disagree with and other things I'm doubtful of at best. But the above articles I thought were good.

[WesP]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law...-1227068293410

Is that still surprise for you folks?

[dazzler]

Hi wes. I think you will find a mental illness is behind what happened. Terrorists don't normally go to police stations and act like this.


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[Burnsy]

Some of them are getting a bit fed up with it all though:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-2...-state/5761392

Thanks for this post, I spent an hour last night reading some of the ABC reports and watching the videos as I had no idea really what ISIS was and thought it about time I educated myself. I feel very sorry for the innocents caught up in all this, they have no option but to fall in line unfortunately.

[DonIncognito]

No, those articles are pathetic dross, and I'm honestly upset that I bothered to give them a click. I think I may have dropped a few IQ points because of them.

[DonIncognito]

The only pity is that Muslims are so frightened to condemn other Muslims for their transgressions against the religion. Most are just as horrified as everyone else.
Joe

No, either you chose not to read the articles, or you read biased, media that doesn't report on it.

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2014-0...akarta/5675550

[BobL]

I'm still checking for those "Reds under the bed", and while my foilie seen to be keeping the aliens at bay now I need to worry about Jokers in black behind my back !

Question. Why do they wear white imperialist jogger style footwear?

Surely no self respecting muslim would be seen dead in those things and seeing as most of them look like ending up that way that proves they aint the real deal.

[silentC]

I know you are being facetious, but you can't judge people by their footwear!

[Big Shed]

I know you are being facetious, but you can't judge people by their footwear!

Why not?