Anybody used U-Beaut sanding sealer.

[Blackstar1099]

I've used Feast Watson's sanding sealer for guitar bodies but it's a bit cloudy and not great for transparent finishes. I've ordered this from U-Beaut SANDING SEALER - Traditional non grain filling sealer but thinking about it afterwards, I wondered whether it will work to seal after grain filler. The blurb says it designed to raise the nap of the grain which then can be sanded off but what will it do to the grain filler? I use timbermate wood filler watered down as grain filler.

[tea lady]

The sanding sealer ( which is just cut shellac ) is great over anything. And dries WAAAAAAAAAAAAY faster than the Feast and Watson version. (Which I think is pretend sanding sealer really. ) Will be dry in a few minutes as apposed to hours or longer.And no fumes. Only smells of Metho. And not for long. Again a big differance from the Feast and Watson one. And ANYTHING can be used over it.

[Mr Brush]

I've used both - and wouldn't touch the FW stuff again with a barge pole.....

These are completely different products. The Ubeaut stuff is what I thought a sanding sealer is supposed to be; thin, clear, dries fast then just lightly sand off the raised grain and you're set to apply a finish. These days I tend to just thin down Ubeaut white shellac so I don't have to buy two different products.....

The FW sanding sealer has a massive amount of dissolved solids. When I went to stir the can I bought, I found a huge lump of putty-like material in the bottom of the can. After 15 minutes vigorous stirring this eventually dissolved into the mix, but the resulting liquid is very thick and cloudy as you say.

Not sure if its true, but someone told me the FW product is intended to be painted over, and therefore has a lot of solids to completely fill the grain and leave a completely smooth surface for paint. Not what you want if you're looking to put a good clear oil or urethane finish on top.

[Blackstar1099]

Awesome. Thanks for the info. I'm looking forward to using it.

[Evanism]

I did three projects with the FW.

The first, which was simple turned out great.

The next was a fairly substantial table. This was a god damned bloody disaster of the first magnitude. I had to sand it all off and it buggered up about 10 belts and a dozen pads for my Rotex ROS. If the can hadn't cost me $30 I would've thrown it down the driveway... I'm known as a patient and slow tempered guy (seriously, this was for a resto on a families table made by their grand dad and stuffing it up would have been Very Uncool.)

Now, I am so wary of it, its on my shelf never to move again. This ins't falling off a horse stuff, this was being in-the-chair at the Inquisition kind of avoidance.

I like the earlier posters, subsequently made up some 50/50 shellac/turps. Fantastic. Not as "filler-ey" but two coats (drys like lightning) and it was sanding time. Happy Evan!

Here was my initial positive review: Cabots Cabothane Clear and Feast Watson Sanding Sealer Review | Time On The Tools

Shows that it is good to keep an open mind.

[Blackstar1099]

I did three projects with the FW.

The first, which was simple turned out great.

The next was a fairly substantial table. This was a god damned bloody disaster of the first magnitude. I had to sand it all off and it buggered up about 10 belts and a dozen pads for my Rotex ROS. If the can hadn't cost me $30 I would've thrown it down the driveway... I'm known as a patient and slow tempered guy (seriously, this was for a resto on a families table made by their grand dad and stuffing it up would have been Very Uncool.)

Now, I am so wary of it, its on my shelf never to move again. This ins't falling off a horse stuff, this was being in-the-chair at the Inquisition kind of avoidance.

I like the earlier posters, subsequently made up some 50/50 shellac/turps. Fantastic. Not as "filler-ey" but two coats (drys like lightning) and it was sanding time. Happy Evan!

Here was my initial positive review: Cabots Cabothane Clear and Feast Watson Sanding Sealer Review | Time On The Tools

Shows that it is good to keep an open mind.

How does the first project look now Evan? I think the FW sinks into the grain months after. The only body I've painted without it still has a beautiful shine. It was a kit guitar that was already sealed. All the others I can see grain showing even after waiting a month after clear coating to cut and polish.

[CXSmith]

I bought the U Beaut sanding sealer but unsure when to use it. I am turning pens at the moment sanding at 120, 180, 240, 400, and then into Micro Mesh down to 15000 or EEE Polish and then finishing off with an oil results are variable probably due to me anyway.