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13th April 2020, 04:21 PM #1
council double speak interpreter required
So further to my earlier post
Wood Heater - would you advise council?
I have found the application form, but curious as to how others would read point 4?
I got my CC 6 months ago, but plans do not include a solid fuel heater.
I read that as an approval from council is not required.
Yes, I don't like talking to council directly.
Thanks
Skeg
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13th April 2020, 04:50 PM #2
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Definitely written by a non english speaking beaurocrat. I agree that it says that you don't need a permit but I think that it really means that if the wood heater was on your building plans you don't need a separate permit. I think that you need a written responce from the council.
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13th April 2020, 05:43 PM #3
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Is your CC still in construction phase or do you have an OC?
Is the Certifier the Council or a Private Certifier?
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13th April 2020, 06:57 PM #4
As Beardy has said
The person who never made a mistake never made anything
Cheers
Ray
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13th April 2020, 07:39 PM #5
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13th April 2020, 08:18 PM #6
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Ok, if the OC had not been issued it would of been at the Certifier’s discretion whether further approval was required but that ship has sailed.
I know you don’t want to deal with council and I try and avoid it too but to be honest, is it really worth potentially risking your brand new home’s insurance policy on a non compliant technicality?Pay a couple of hundred dollars and sleep well at night,
The main reason council has this rule in place is to protect people from themselves, I know you said you are getting it professionally installed but there are plenty who will try and make a DIY fireplace out of tin cans etc or buy a bitsa on Treegum and burn the place down and possibly kill someone in the process
Just guessing here but you will probably find that as pert of the application they will either do a final inspection for safety reasons or require evidence of a professional installation. I have never done one on its own, only as part of a new build so not sure how they play it.
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13th April 2020, 11:07 PM #7
Beardy is 100% correct. The council will treat you ok if you dot your I's and cross your T's but if you dont, they can be a you know what. The issue of insurance is a very real one, if you don't do it leagally then they are within their rights to deny or make a minimal payout if it goes pear shaped, I used to do a lot of insurance repair work and they can be make your life hell if anything is not cosha.
The person who never made a mistake never made anything
Cheers
Ray
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13th April 2020, 11:23 PM #8
Thanks for your input. I have sent off the application. I will let you know how I get on.
cheers
skeg
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14th April 2020, 07:54 AM #9
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councils have been sued before because the smoke from wood heaters has accentuated neighbours breathing problems and health issues. In this day and age, in our litigious society, people are always looking to blame. Also, many councils have jumped on the “greenie environmental protector” bandwagon, and they want to send a message to the ratepayers.
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15th April 2020, 10:45 AM #10
Well I have paid the application fee, $230, now the application has to be assessed.
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15th April 2020, 11:55 AM #11
AAMI has advised me that it is included in the home insurance policy. In that; it is not specified in their policy. It is considered as part of the building after installation. (I will probably call them again though)
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15th April 2020, 12:06 PM #12
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I would say that the text highlighted above meant to say something like
4. Approval is not required if the details of the *application* are included in the approved construction certificate for plans and specifications.
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15th April 2020, 01:40 PM #13
It is poorly worded. It’s intent is that if your initial application for the house showed a wood fireplace, then a separate fireplace application is not necessary.
The fireplace application is for apply to retrofit one to an existing dwelling. Similar to swimming pools.Now proudly sponsored by Binford Tools. Be sure to check out the Binford 6100 - available now at any good tool retailer.
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15th April 2020, 02:48 PM #14
So my application is processed as a DA. Which means council treat the installation of a wood fuel heater as important. Glad I asked you chaps and glad I applied now.
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15th April 2020, 04:19 PM #15
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