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Thread: Workshop lighting around lathes.
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26th June 2010, 02:44 PM #1
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Workshop lighting around lathes.
As it has come up in some other threads I thought I would start another thread on this subject.
It has been stated in another thread that it is a fact that all woodturners don't use Fluoros.
Hi Ern,
It is a well known fact amongst Woodturners that you don't use Fluoro's for that very reason.
If you buy 120W Flood lights, & they don't cost that much to run, they are better for the Eyes, & a better light to see your work with.
I'm not to sure but they have a special rating on the box as to the using Watts eg. 80W.?
Regards,
issatree.
We use other lights sometimes to throw light into a specific area but these are generally low energy flouros as well.
We sometimes use incandescent floods for demos but the high wattage fluoros do a better job.
On the odd occasion that we do have strobing (and it is very rare) a slight adjustment of speed generally eliminates it.
Our lights are all double Fluoros of the Daylight sort by NEC.
The walls and ceiling are all painted white and this helps with light transference immensely.
A search on Google under "workshop lighting" gives a lot of hits and they all reccommend Flouros
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26th June 2010, 02:58 PM #2
Same here , also have a 36W fluoro mounted about 3 ft above my metal lathe. Have never experienced this "strobing".
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26th June 2010, 03:01 PM #3
All my lighting is fluros with a couple of spot lights for direct lighting.
Never had any problem with strobing.
Would like to know what others were doing when the strobing occured.
I think and I may be wrong but the strobing may have been caused in the early days of the fluro lights when the efficiency of the ballast and starter were not so good.
With the progress in this area the efficiency of the light is such that it does not really occur any moreJim Carroll
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26th June 2010, 03:31 PM #4
I have 4 banks of double fluoros in my shed with a small Halogen spot mounted on the lathe.
Haven't had any trouble with strobing other than some green and purple colors appearing very occasionally, and I am pretty sure that comes from the halogen globe.
Here's a couple of quotes I found by Googling: "This safety problem is readily solved by the replacement of old style ballasts with electronic ballasts." Fluorescent lights have less adverse effects when mixed with daylight or ordinary incandescent light. Some of the modern fluorescent lights with built-in electronic ballasts are supposedly better in this regard. The light quality is still poor, but the line current flicker is eliminated."Cheers,
Steck
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26th June 2010, 04:02 PM #5
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Would like to know what others were doing when the strobing occured.
I think and I may be wrong but the strobing may have been caused in the early days of the fluro lights when the efficiency of the ballast and starter were not so good.
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26th June 2010, 05:01 PM #6]strobing occurs because fluros flash at 50 htz(times per second) if the lathe is spinning at the same speed or a multiple of it can look like the piece is stationary it can be fixed in double fluros by putting a capacitor on only one of the ballasts which makes the lights flash at different times, most sparkies can do this for you at a cheap price or you can buy a 50c capacitor and work it out yourself
I use flouros above my lathes double tube 4 footers. With a incandescent light on one of those super flexible stands at the headstock and incandescent spotlight 150watt pointing up from the tail stock for deep hollowing.
Flouros as general shed lighting as well and a small 6watt LED night light left on permanently for night entry. As I can be a bit messy at timesand its helps the grandchildren navigate around as well.
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26th June 2010, 05:04 PM #7
Both my sheds have banks of Fluros, even have a couple of mini fluros as well, above the lathe and have never experienced strobing of any sort.
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26th June 2010, 05:31 PM #8
When I built my current workshop 30yrs ago was advised against fluros so installed incandescent lights.
Now that I have replaced all the old incandescent bulbs with the new energy efficient bulbs I now have all fluros, in effect. Haven't noticed any strobing.
.....Stay sharp and stay safe!
Neil
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26th June 2010, 05:36 PM #9
My shed has 3 banks of double fluros, a magnetic based lamp for the lathe and the walls are white malemine and two skylights. During the day I don't need any artificial lighting.
I have experienced the strobe effect, in the old shed, a single batten fluro. Recognised what was happening, turned the lathe of and replaced the single with a double bank of fluro.Pat
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26th June 2010, 09:29 PM #10
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G`day I use flouros and a spotty no strobe problems but have never really been happy with lighting for lathe. For a spot light what is the best you have used?
Mick
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26th June 2010, 09:39 PM #11
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Mick, I have an angle-able desk lamp that sits on the headstock and reaches a decent way. Also a Halogen spot on mag base that hangs off the box air scrubber overhead and shines into semi-enclosed forms. Finally I recently added a 500w paraflood but it overheats the right ear
Cheers, Ern
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26th June 2010, 09:41 PM #12
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Candles for me. Only trouble is that the air from the rapidly spinning timber sometimes blows them out.
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26th June 2010, 10:03 PM #13
Picked up a couple of these in a garage sale, glued some rare earth magnets to the bottom, sits on the headstock of my wood lathe. Very stable, telescopic so you cab position it where you need the most light.
Also have one for the metal lathe, but don't use it as often as I have a 4ft fluoro hanging 3ft above it.
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26th June 2010, 10:18 PM #14
Planet studio lamp. Not sure if they are available any more. Screw mine to the headstock so it swivels with the headstock. From there it will reach around the largest platters I turn and into the deepest hollow forms, although I prefer to attach a LED light to my deep hollowing tools for that.
.....Stay sharp and stay safe!
Neil
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26th June 2010, 10:38 PM #15
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