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30th August 2023, 01:45 PM #1381
Mick, do some research on "Dualit" brand. They were pretty good when I purchased mine in 2008.
You cannot trust ANY brand these days, regardless of how good the pedigree is (or was). As we all know from woodworking tools the "Accountants in Suits" have taken over and sell shight tools under good old trusted names. It's actually the same with everything (appliances etc), so one has to extensively read reviews (and try to make sure they are genuine reviews). These days I read a lot of "Choice" articles, and then look for reviews on what they recommend, before purchasing. I am yet to be let down by this process in the last year or so.
Yes, it's that kind of thing that should be in the "Opinion" section, and clearly marked as such. It's one of the gripes I sometimes have about The Guardian, and one that I always have about Fox "News".
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30th August 2023, 02:33 PM #1382
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I bought a Dualit "Classic" toaster in the UK in the early 1990's. It's the simplest design possible - a clockwork timer, hefty 1 or 2 slot selection switch and a manual lever to raise the toast. No electronics whatsoever. I believe they started making them in the 1950's, and their "Classic" model hasn't changed all that much. Maybe 5 years ago we upgraded to a 4 slot version of the same toaster because sometimes we needed, um, 4 slices of toast at a time. The old 2 slot machine got relegated to the workshop, but still worked. I have no knowledge of their other products, but if they follow the same philosophy as the "Classic" toaster, expect them to be basic but bombproof.
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30th August 2023, 02:50 PM #1383
Usefully, Choice also tend to show the country of manufacture for each model from a particular brand. Makes it easy to identify at what level in their product range German brands (for example) actually make the product in Germany. Likewise with cars, e.g. which Hondas still come out of Japan, vs. bodged together in the UK
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30th August 2023, 02:53 PM #1384
One thing I don't agree with about Choice is the "buy" button for any given product. It diminishes their objectivity.
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30th August 2023, 03:37 PM #1385
Of course, being a tight
, I don't actually subscribe to Choice magazine. Our local library has it though, so I can go look at relevant Choice reviews there before considering any major appliance purchase. As you say, best to use this to generate a short list of products to consider, then go off and Google other reviews and compeittive pricing info.
I think I only ever got one bum steer from Choice some years ago; they recommended a particular kettle as being one of the quietest available due to some fancy feature it had like a double base rather than exposed element. We bought one - it was quiet for about 2 months, then transformed into the noisiest kettle I've ever experienced. Sounded like a 747 taking off when my partner put a brew on early in the morning before going off on shift work. Luckily the kettle burned down with the rest of the house in the bushfires (2020), and has been replaced with a simple, cheap, exposed element type (probably K-Mart) which works a treat and is as quiet as a mouse.
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31st August 2023, 08:01 AM #1386
Davich
Thanks for the contribution. Kogan is a government owned station. The station at which I work, Millmerran (I mention this as a welcome newcomer to the thread i need to state my position), is privately owned. Millmerran looked at the same thing as Kogan Creek and decided not to go ahead as it was not economically viable. That was then. It may not be the case now. Renewables have made daytime power ridiculously cheap. The big issue, as you have said is power during the sunless and windless hours. The focus should be on storage and that aspect is still lamentably minimal.
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31st August 2023, 08:05 AM #1387
Warb
It would be preferable to do without the political comment, but if you have been attacked by certain political elements as often as Crikey, have perhaps you would be unable to resist a dig. For real unmitigated bias have a look at Sky and particularly their headlines.
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31st August 2023, 08:08 AM #1388Bushmiller;
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31st August 2023, 09:00 AM #1389
Well, it's much worse than has been reported in the press - the public are only hearing about the large-scale stuff ups. The ordinary, everyday stuff ups don't get a mention. Having done some work up their as a contractor, I certainly don't want anything more to do with the project in future.
Initial cost was estimated at $2 billion. The latest estimate is $12 billion.....clearly even a small child could do a better job of costing a project. They've hardly started on the tunnel bores, thanks to a huge hole that suddenly appeared in a paddock with a tunnel boring machine at the bottom of it, and any government with any fiscal nouse (and a spine) would scrap the project entirely. If the economics barely stood scrutiny with the original budget and timescale, they certainly don't now.
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31st August 2023, 10:03 AM #1390
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This leads me to another thought. I have, in previous posts, mentioned the problems that are caused by "climate mitigation" measures being driven by a desire for corporate profit rather than any real wish to fix the problem. Given, as has also been mentioned, that corporate profit as a driver inherently favours the short term, high return, "easy" solutions and precludes any long term, low payback, high-cost projects (as evidenced by the mass of wind and solar farms that are quick, cheap and easy to install but don't address the weather-independent base load problem), will "we" ever grasp the nettle and address that base load issue? Or will we simply hope that someone, sooner or later (and before it's "too late") will devise an approach that will both genuinely work and also meet the requirements for profit?
In the past, western civilization and probably most others have always done things for profit. Whether personal profit, or profit of the country/kingdom/empire, those explorers, engineers and so forth were driven and funded by the desire to profit. I guess the only difference now, if we believe the current predictions*, is that there are significant negative consequences for failure to act.
*Although in the past perhaps the motivation was similar, revolving around what God(s) might do if the population didn't behave appropriately!
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31st August 2023, 10:21 AM #1391
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Hi Paul, thanks for the welcome, you are correct in that Kogan is government owned and then you would also know that there was supposed to be a Kogan 2 to boost the capacity out to 1500MW but that is highly unlikely to happen in this current climate (pardon the pun!).
Whilst daytime renewables are cheap the only reason for that is that we have shipped our cheap energy (coal) off to China so that we can offshore the "dirty" manufacturing to a country that only gives lip service to human rights and pollution so that we can have cheap goods.
In a past life I went over to China on 2 business deals of which one was paid for by the Australian government to clean up a refinerys pollution that was so bad it could be seen from space.
The winning contractor (ex father in law) stated to me that once commissioned the water treatment plant that he designed and built and was fully paid for by the Australian taxpayer that the Chinese would pull the contract for the 7 other plants that were slated to be built, copy his and then build their own..............and that is exactly what happened.
With the deal that I had going on I had already paid the money so had to go through the process, however after seeing the abysmal treatment of the workers and the conditions they were forced to work under plus how polluted the whole area was I decided then and there to limit my dealings with the Chinese as much as possible even though I ended up losing a lucrative deal.
You are dead right in that the problem is storage of electricity which is why the current base load need to be not only retained but should have more capacity to bring down pricing until we have a viable means of storing power efficiently but with the current dogma this will not happen.
Dave
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31st August 2023, 11:38 PM #1392
Dave
Kogan Creek was the last thermal power station to be commissioned in Australia and Millmerran was the second last. Kogan has the largest single unit in Australia at 740MW and is nearly as much as our two 425MW units combined. We also had anticipated a further two units, but all that was dashed as acceptance of carbon dioxide emissions was finally admitted and we became a pariah.
The coal that is used in power stations is extremely poor quality and for this reason is not shipped overseas. So, while there are some anomalies in attempting to reduce carbon emissions while exporting carbon producing fuels, it is not causing high coal prices in the thermal stations. The market is driven by the old basic economic principle of supply and demand. During the day power supplies are plentiful and the price is extremely low: Frequently in the negative region where the generators have to pay to remain online. The last few days have seen ~-$45Mw/hr in Queensland for extended periods. The converse is true at nighttime where supply is tighter and demand from thermal sources is greater.
The Chinese are a wily bunch of entrepreneurs. I sense, despite never having been to China (so forgive me please if I am wrong), that their approach is changing. As a child growing up, "made in Japan" meant absolute rubbish. Gradually they developed into being high level manufacturers. I think China is moving towards that position. However, their political ambitions may yet prove to be their undoing where in a similar economic position Japan went from strength to strength.
Coal fired stations will be around for a little longer yet. As they become uneconomic, they will close. They are mainly in private hands and the bottom line is king.
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PaulBushmiller;
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1st September 2023, 12:08 AM #1393
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1st September 2023, 07:21 AM #1394
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Hi Paul, you are on the money about Kogan for sure, Kogan breaks even at a ridiculously cheap price point per m/hr but the savings are never passed on due to the way the entire grid is being manipulated, Australia could have cheap power for centuries but as I said the current dogma will not allow it while we transfer our abundant wealth overseas so that they can have cheap power.
Dave
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2nd September 2023, 01:11 AM #1395
Originally Posted by Bushmiller
- In the early 1900's the USA was not regarded as a quality producer like the UK and Germany,
- Korea also followed the Japan route,
- ditto Taiwan,
- ditto Thailand, with hiccups,
- and India?
We were in China not long before lockdown; it is so big and so complex. They do produce crap, but they also produce some very high quality stuff.
Virtually all Apple products have been produced in China; no one criticises their quality.
We saw lots of Chinese made Mercedes Benz cars. They are identifiable from German made Mercedes by:
- Letter "L" added to model number,
- About 150mm longer - all in rear seat leg room where owner sits,
- Better paint job.
I saw power tools that looked, felt and sounded like Festool at about half the Ozito price.
My theory is that the buyers for Aus Big Chains are so addicted to absolute minimal price that they just do not see the available quality options.
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