YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE, your attention.

[doug3030]

I don’t think you will need your mobile workbench.

At this stage it is yourself , Benny, and myself !!
Three wise amigos, so we can decide to sit out the back on the BIG table, should be enough room .
Or we can cram into the creative zone(I have to clean up a bit).

A cozy little group then. A pity more people can't make it, but I am sure that those who are there will get a lot out of it.

Tools wise it seems you and Benny have done pretty good job on ruffling our your handles all ready.
So ,I would suggest ,rasps ,files ,sander ,paper would be good.
I have my small trim router if you want some timber taken off quickly around the tote.

Our handles are cut out and edges sanded smooth and holes for sawnuts drilled, but not necessarily fitted. The aim was to get us to the point where we should be able to leave the GTG with a finished handle and there is still plenty of work there for both of us. If Benny's sawplate and brass back arrive in time from Blackburns, access to a drill press may be useful to drill the holes in the sawplate. Also a means to trim off the corner ot the sawplate to fit the handle would be nice if you have the means. If not I can bring something.

I have enough vices(No that’s not funny )
To use for work holding.

Well that may be the case but NOBODY EVER had enough clamps.

Can’t think of anything else at this moment, but I’m waiting for my caffeine levels to balance out after the evenings sleep lol.

I'm waiting for the weather to warm up a bit so I can get out into the shed and continue my sawnut production run

[Simplicity]

A cozy little group then. A pity more people can't make it, but I am sure that those who are there will get a lot out of it.



Our handles are cut out and edges sanded smooth and holes for sawnuts drilled, but not necessarily fitted. The aim was to get us to the point where we should be able to leave the GTG with a finished handle and there is still plenty of work there for both of us. If Benny's sawplate and brass back arrive in time from Blackburns, access to a drill press may be useful to drill the holes in the sawplate. Also a means to trim off the corner ot the sawplate to fit the handle would be nice if you have the means. If not I can bring something.



Well that may be the case but NOBODY EVER had enough clamps.



I'm waiting for the weather to warm up a bit so I can get out into the shed and continue my sawnut production run

Have drill press plus lots of metal destroying equipment.
Plus the little drill bit for 1095 spring steel,that stuff is hard.
I will keep a eye on the weather the coming week because right now it’s wet cold and miserable here.

Cheers Matt.

[doug3030]

I'm waiting for the weather to warm up a bit so I can get out into the shed and continue my sawnut production run

Well I got out to make sawnuts but the disorganization around the lathe was hampering progress so I diverted my efforts to organize my workspace.

I made this out of some Crapiata Scandanavia (the scientific name for timber reclaimed from an Ikea futon bed):

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Now all that stuff in it's rack is not lying under the lathe in all the swarf and coolant.

Matt, What size is that drill bit?

[Simplicity]

Well I got out to make sawnuts but the disorganization around the lathe was hampering progress so I diverted my efforts to organize my workspace.

I made this out of some Crapiata Scandanavia (the scientific name for timber reclaimed from an Ikea futon bed):

20190331_134111.jpg
20190331_134035.jpg

Now all that stuff in it's rack is not lying under the lathe in all the swarf and coolant.

Matt, What size is that drill bit?

The Drill bit was from Blackburn tools
It’s 3/16 or 4.7 mm.

I’m 90 percent sure that is the same bit Doug, but not 100 percent sure.
But once the hole is started it can be enlarged with a suitable rat tail file.

Cheers Matt.

[doug3030]

The Drill bit was from Blackburn tools
It’s 3/16 or 4.7 mm.

I’m 90 percent sure that is the same bit Doug, but not 100 percent sure.
But once the hole is started it can be enlarged with a suitable rat tail file.

1095 sawplate is tempered to 48-51 Rockwell, I think.

Your drill bit would be Carbide which would handle that ok, and once through, I could probably get one of my Cobalt drills to widen it a bit.

The other possibility is to get out the MAPP torch and temper the part of the sawplate that will be inside the handle back a bit further and use a cobalt bit.

[Simplicity]

1095 sawplate is tempered to 48-51 Rockwell, I think.

Your drill bit would be Carbide which would handle that ok, and once through, I could probably get one of my Cobalt drills to widen it a bit.

The other possibility is to get out the MAPP torch and temper the part of the sawplate that will be inside the handle back a bit further and use a cobalt bit.

1095 is hard
It’s not so much what the drill bit is made of(I’m sure it’s just drill steel) it’s the cutting geometry of it.
I can’t remember excalty what it’s called but it works very well.

Doug don’t go near the saw plate with heat you will ruin it.

Cheers Matt.

Edit it’s called a spade bit,

[doug3030]

The Drill bit was from Blackburn tools
It’s 3/16 or 4.7 mm.

I’m 90 percent sure that is the same bit Doug, but not 100 percent sure.
But once the hole is started it can be enlarged with a suitable rat tail file.

Is this the one, Matt?

Blackburn Tools - Solid carbide spade drill bits

[Bushmiller]

Matt

IanW put me on to the tungsten carbide, triangular, tile drills. They work very well, but don't press too hard before the hole starts to appear as the point can shatter. A reamer is the best tool for opening up the hole, but a chainsaw file can be substituted.

Regards
Paul

[Simplicity]

Is this the one, Matt?

Blackburn Tools - Solid carbide spade drill bits

Yep

[Simplicity]

Matt

IanW put me on to the tungsten carbide, triangular, tile drills. They work very well, but don't press too hard before the hole starts to appear as the point can shatter. A reamer is the best tool for opening up the hole, but a chainsaw file can be substituted.

Regards
Paul

Paul,


I’ve used the tile bits on tiles no problem use them all the time!
I tried once on some scrap 1095 and couldn’t get it to work.
From memory I tried it dry and also tried it with some cutting fluid(The metal work type) in a drill press.
Do I need to revisit this black magic art form.
It seems a very contentious issue when talking saw steel and holes.

Oddball would have the answer tho lol.

[Bushmiller]

[QUOTE=Simplicity;2133324]
From memory I tried it dry and also tried it with some cutting fluid(The metal work type) in a drill press.
Do I need to revisit this black magic art form.
QUOTE]

Matt

Yes, I think you should. I have been looking at buying these drills (5mm) as they look more robust.

https://www.smithandarrow.com.au/pro...mic-drill-bit/

Regards
Paul

[Simplicity]

[QUOTE=Bushmiller;2133328]

From memory I tried it dry and also tried it with some cutting fluid(The metal work type) in a drill press.
Do I need to revisit this black magic art form.
QUOTE]

Matt

Yes, I think you should. I have been looking at buying these drills (5mm) as they look more robust.

https://www.smithandarrow.com.au/pro...mic-drill-bit/

Regards
Paul

Immmm !!!!
Another internet tool site to look at.
Looking at tools on line is almost becoming another hobby on its own .

[doug3030]

I just cut the sawplate to fit the handle slot I cut the other day. Fits just nice. Happy with self.(Well I did it hours ago now but The forum still won't let me attach the photo. I will post it later if it ever lets me.)

[Bushmiller]

Matt

I have ordered some of those tile drills ( I thought I had better put my money where my mouth is) so at some time in the future I will have to report back on them. I have dealt with Smith & Arrow several times in the past mainly for sanding type products (flap discs, sander discs, angle grinder cutting discs etc) and other products including twist bits and have been very pleased both with the products and the level of service.

At one time S & A were a Forum sponsor too, but a quick perusal of the sponsors no longer shows them listed.

Regards
Paul

(Disclaimer: No personal or financial connection to this company)

[Bushmiller]

I just cut the sawplate to fit the handle slot I cut the other day. Fits just nice. Happy with self.(Well I did it hours ago now but The forum still won't let me attach the photo. I will post it later if it ever lets me.)

Doug

I thought I was the only one who had problems connecting to the Forum. However I have not had a pic issue. Will look forward to seeing the pix as and when.

On the subject of the original theme I think anybody who is hesitating about going to the GTG should give it a go. GTGs in general are very relaxed affairs and the wonderful aspect is meeting up with people whom you only know by name. The benefit is long term as down the track you see posts by people you now know: It brings so much more meaning to the Forum participation.

Added to that, the theme of this GTG is just so good .



Regards
Paul