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    A monkey and a dog arguing religion, this is a good day
    I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MurrayD99 View Post
    Friday is the day each week 'pon which the meaning of life is explored. Yer'll need a password and a creative mind.... (no, no pun; well...)
    Sounds to me like a bunch of idiots with too much time on their hands.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruddigar View Post
    Sounds to me like a bunch of idiots with too much time on their hands.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Brown Dog or is it silentC, I'm confused! View Post
    There is evidence for god,
    What evidence ?
    I dispute that there is any evidence for God. Hence my atheistic stance
    I once heard James Morrison (yes, the trumpet player) and well known explainer of things, say that he has a feeling that the more difficult things are to understand the more important they are. He used the examples of (in increasing degrees of perplexity), electricity, love, God.

    Perhaps he had a point.

    On the other had Douglas Adams had another take:

    There is a theory which states that if anyone discovers just exactly what the universe is for and why we are here, that it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. Then there is a theory which states that this has already happened.

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    Now it is such a bizarrely improbably coincidence that anything so mindbogglingly useful [the Babel fish] could have evolved by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God.
    The argument goes something like this: "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
    "But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED"
    "Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
    He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife.

    Hmmm...

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    You can call it what ever you want
    They are not my terms.

    Why not, isnt that how court cases are decided every day...why cant I apply the same logic to the religion debate ?
    Well, if evidence was proof, then all court cases would get a guilty verdict, would they not?

    I dispute that there is any evidence for God.
    The fact that a very, very large number of people believe in him. Something makes them feel that way. There are documents saying that he exists. There are events which people say are evidence. Like I say, I am more in favour of the negative side.

    If there is no evidence, then why are you not a 7?
    "I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."

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    Quote Originally Posted by bitingmidge View Post
    He used the examples of (in increasing degrees of perplexity), electricity, love, God.
    James Morrison never had to decide which table saw to buy under $2,000 did he......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruddigar View Post
    'Snot the debate that's against the rules. It's the subject matter that ruffles a few feathers.

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    Thanks for that Ruddigar .
    ... is the boss and he is right that there are problably better places to discuss these things. And of course I will cease and desist if my posts are not wanted or contributing in anyway. I guess it is inevitable that dicussions on this topic so often lead to heads becoming hot . I just think it is a sad that a theist and an atheist cant have a pleasant, freindly and interesting debate about their beliefs( by that I dont mean just this forum but in general)

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    A truly wonderous discussion is taking place here, and I'm starting to get the point...
    This you say, is indeed god-like, therefore there is a God?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Mac View Post
    A truly wonderous discussion is taking place here, and I'm starting to get the point...
    This you say, is indeed god-like, therefore there is a God?
    All hail the great and hairy god
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    Does have a personalised plate then?
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    A X E - M A N

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruddigar View Post
    Axe-man
    You would want to spell that one correct, or you may end up in a Seinfeld episode
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brown Dog View Post
    Thanks for that Ruddigar . ....
    Ignore him, he is a stirrer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Mac View Post
    ....This you say, is indeed god-like, ...
    Picture the biggest.... ugliest... hairiest.... Kindergarten teacher you could ever imagine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff Rogers View Post
    Picture the biggest.... ugliest... hairiest.... Kindergarten teacher you could ever imagine.
    So you have met my wife then
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff Rogers View Post
    Picture the biggest.... ugliest... hairiest.... Kindergarten teacher you could ever imagine.
    is really Mrs Godfrey!?

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