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Thread: We Need To Make A Stand
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2nd August 2007, 02:40 PM #91
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2nd August 2007, 02:41 PM #92
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2nd August 2007, 02:44 PM #93
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2nd August 2007, 02:48 PM #94
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2nd August 2007, 02:49 PM #95I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.
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2nd August 2007, 02:53 PM #96I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.
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2nd August 2007, 02:59 PM #97
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2nd August 2007, 03:05 PM #98
Then you are a 'weak atheist' which is more like an agnostic than a 'strong atheist'. A strong atheist denies the existence of god/s.
Evidence is not proof. You cannot say this is because I have evidence. You can use the evidence to attempt to prove or disprove your hypothesis. There is evidence for god, there is evidence against. I find the evidence against more compelling but there is no proof (nor do I believe there ever can be). You can call that sitting on the fence if you want, but I wont be compelled to make a decision one way or the other."I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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2nd August 2007, 03:06 PM #99
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2nd August 2007, 03:12 PM #100
'Snot the debate that's against the rules. It's the subject matter that ruffles a few feathers.
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2nd August 2007, 03:13 PM #101
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2nd August 2007, 03:13 PM #102
The way I see it, the whole debate is pointless because what you are asking a religious person to do is to forgoe the very thing that makes them religious, which is the faith that their invisible friend does exist. And what they are asking you to do is to accept that he exists. Neither of those things is going to happen. All the debate about the truth of the bible, the age of the earth, evolution vs creationism that is used to try to win the argument would crumble away if you remove the idea of faith. Without faith, there is no longer anything to argue about.
I find it amusing that you have creationists trying to find evidence to counter evolutionist theory, Trying to use science against itself. Science would drop evolution theory like a hot potato if someone came up with something better. It still doesn't prove the existence of god.
And vice versa. Say you could prove that the bible was actually complete fiction. Do you think that would bring an end to christianity?"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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2nd August 2007, 03:23 PM #103
Too many greenies to hand out in this thread.
I quite like Douglas Adams take on religion Ie the bit where he indicates that without faith god is nothing, and proof belies faith thus if you get proof it negates faith and removes the need for faith therefore god cant exist and thus vanishes in a puff of logic. or some such thing...
I love it. He must a spent some time navel contemplating over that one...
all th god botherers should keep it to themselves, there'd be less war and swearing at the front door.
Anyone watch that show on SBS about the freak Mormon polygamists ? I wonder how truthful that is... surely they cant be THAT good looking, I imagine polygamy is so ugly people can get married but at least the spouse doesnt have to shag an ugly person too much due to having to spread themselves around...
see my auto signature...Zed
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2nd August 2007, 03:34 PM #104
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2nd August 2007, 03:38 PM #105
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