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Thread: A Real Workshop
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30th June 2012, 05:12 PM #91
Beams going up
I am very impressed Mini. I can certainly appreciate the effort you made working with big pieces like that.
I estimated my Beams are about 70kg
Pergola post about 100kg and
the Shed posts about 175kg.
Today a couple of othe mates came over to help put the beams on the pergola.
3.2m is a long way up when you have to lift a 70kg beam.
We made up a platform and hooked a rope to one end of the beam.
Lifted the beam up onto the platform.
Got up on the platform and lifted on end onto a temporary support bracket.
One mate up a ladder on the other post
Another on the ground hold the rope attached to the other end of the beam.
Lifted the other end onto the second support bracket.
Lift one end to the post and get it into the mortice.
Fit the knee brace.
Lift other end to the mortice and fit knee brace.
Lots of jiggling.
Then put a strap around the lot and took up the tension..
More jiggling and a few taps with the sledge.
Pretty soon everything in place and fitting nicely.
Drill peg holes though the tenons and drive in the pegs.
We moved onto the first front and back beams. Much easier to fit.
Then called it quits.
I have to rout the rest of the dovetails in the beams before we can put up any more beams.
That could be tomorrow.
Now one end of the pergola is finished and the hole structure is stable.
I'm pleased with how it all went together with minimal problems. Lots of head scratching but no problems we couldn't solve.
I have received a lot of comments about the size of the materials for the pergola and shed.
Everything is big.Scally
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30th June 2012, 05:36 PM #92GOLD MEMBER
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Scally, the important bit in my post was "young and stupid". I admire anyone who builds something a bit different and has to put a real effort into achieving it. After my little effort I can appreciate what is needed to get things like this done. I hope you have many happy hours mucking around in your shed as you deserve it. I started literally not knowing anything other than how to fill a barrow with dirt and learned as we went on. I look back now and wonder how I even had the audacity to start what was a fairly complex project that took some years to finish.
CHRIS
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30th June 2012, 05:49 PM #93
Looks awesome Scally, good stuff!
Cheers,Andy Mac
Change is inevitable, growth is optional.
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30th June 2012, 07:52 PM #94
Yes Mini I got your point.
This is bigger than I have attempted before but I have done a fir bit of woodwork.
I did get a concreter and builder involved to get the slab done. I didn't want to risk my trial and error on the foundations.
I have enjoyed my mates enthusiasm when helping. They love seeing the big timber and mortice and tenons.
They have not hesitated in the work or in offering helpful suggestions.
Like yesterday when the forklift wouldn't start. Neil grabbed one end of a post and said, "I think we can carry them". The others just stepped in and grabbed a piece of the first post.
They even joked at their steering of the loaded dolly. I think they either ran off the ply sheets and bogged in the mud or hit a stirrup with every post. Then blamed me for putting the stirrup in the road!
Look at the effort in the attached pic as Jay tries to pull the 70kg beam into the corner post. I had to force them to let me put the strap around the posts so we could winch the beam into the posts.
A few neighbours have seen me working in the driveway and wandered in to ask what I was making.
Most making comments like Claw hama.....are you building an Ark?......this will outlast most of the houses in Newcastle......
Good funScally
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30th June 2012, 11:00 PM #95
Scallys been watching Grand Designs
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1st July 2012, 08:02 AM #96GOLD MEMBER
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Log Building Slicks, Chisels and Gouges Carving Tool Sets - Log Home Building Tools and Timber Framing Tools - Magard Ventures Ltd., Canada.
Here's a bit of the Magard catalog for the tools like those you use.
Going to be a wonderful shop & living space.
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1st July 2012, 11:03 PM #97
I love the link.
It's a good thing I don't live nearby!
The prices look reasonable too.
I was a bit shocked at the height of the posts when we stood them up but today they just look impressive.
Thanks.Scally
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2nd July 2012, 09:45 AM #98
Scally looking good
I don't think however your going to be to impressed with the rootball of the palm when it lifts the corner and edges of the area. After having taken out FiL's 6 or so palms and ending up with a hole 15ft dia and about 6ft deep below ground level.
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2nd July 2012, 03:31 PM #99SENIOR MEMBER
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Scally, thanks again for a really great thread and pics.
For me, it says much for you that you have such great mates.
Says a great dal for you........and for them.
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2nd July 2012, 07:29 PM #100
Rafters going up
Close Claw hama but I think it was Grand Delusions!
I am not fond of the palms either but if I took them out now I would have a great view of my strange neighbour's back yard and the plumming down the back of his house. Not the best view from the spa!
It is likely to die suddenly once the climbers and other shrubs get established.
Thanks Old Farmer, it is good to have friends to lend a helping hand. We got a lot done when the guys turned up. I really noticed it the last two days working on my own.
One person on each end of a board is much quicker and easier than one person running from one end to the other. Even taking measurements 3 m up in the air is a pain.
I eventually got the first four rafters up. The big half blind dovetails look like they will work.
Everything looks nice and square and the first bay is now locked in place.
On to the next bay.
Then I need to find another 4 rafters. They aren't needed until the shed goes up so no hurry, yet.Scally
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2nd July 2012, 10:01 PM #101
Scally I see what you mean by plumbing good job its not a bright blue or pink.
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3rd July 2012, 08:15 PM #102
Neighbours
Yes, it is not that flash over the back fence.
He has a strange habit of running his two old cars each day.
Sometimes he runs them in the garage for about 10 minutes each and sometimes he runs them down the driveway and back to the garage.
The router gave him some noise competition today.
The pergola is starting to look like a pergola now.Scally
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3rd July 2012, 09:48 PM #103GOLD MEMBER
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Looking good. You can tell who your real mates are when it comes to something like this.
CHRIS
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3rd July 2012, 11:20 PM #104
Dovetails for Bea and Rafters
I have been busy cutting the dovetail slides for the beam to rafter connections.
There are separate templates for the front and back beams and front and back rafters.
The dovetail cutter really struggled cutting the dovetails.
I decided to use a straight bit to remove most of the waste then finish the cuts with the dovetail cutters.
This works much better and less pressure on the router.
It was tricky fitting the rafters. Both ends had to go in at the same time or they wouldn't go in.
The fits are OK but not nice and neat like a drawer front.
They should work fine but I am not happy with some of the gaps.
I might need to work out a way to pull them together better.
You are right Chris. It is a big ask for mates to help on a job like mine. The work and the size of the timbers are strange to them. They like it but it is intimidating.
I see you changed your avatar. Is that a big change?Scally
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4th July 2012, 10:14 AM #105
This has got to be the best show in town....could be a Oscar winner this one
Some of the colors inside some of those timbers are beautiful...
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