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9th June 2013, 02:57 PM #76GOLD MEMBER
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Hi Camoz,
Glad to this thread back in action that is an amazing fence set up, matches the rest of the machine in size and strength and no I don't think flexing will be a problem.
Regards Rod.
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11th June 2013, 11:26 PM #77
looking good Cam, that is one fine fence you have there, as well as functional it even looks sexy as well !!
Thanks for the up date, great to see you moving ahead !!
Melbourne Matty.
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10th October 2013, 07:41 PM #78SENIOR MEMBER
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finally cutting
Hey all,
Well it has been a long time since I made any progress on the Stenner (I have not been too well over the last 2 years, but like they say plenty of reasons no excuses).
The table saw still needs a little bit done to it cosmetically, but at least I now have it at a stage that it can cut, although the table still needs to be tweaked a bit, and the fence for crosscut is just something temporary (made up of old parts from a spindle moulder).
The saw has been fitted with a 20 teeth 18” blade intended for ripping. The videos below show me crosscutting some hardwood, the first is a piece of old 2.25" x 3.75", just to get a feel for how it handles some dense timber, the second piece is another piece of hardwood (I wanted to test for vibration).
Some safety things, just to get them out of the way. Firstly one side of the overhead guard was removed for the video (I wanted to be able to see the cuts as the timber went through the blade, and no I wouldn’t normally cut like this, but I think I was well clear of the firing line should something have gone wrong, although I might have been up for a new iPad). I went with a cross cut as opposed to a rip cut (I prefer to do initial tests with crosscuts). I was of cause wearing appropriate PPE.
This first video is simply a cross cut just to see how it performs
In the following video, I wanted to show people the lack of vibration that this saw produces, this is due in part to its direct drive (the motor shaft is the blade arbor), and the fact that it weighs over 1 ton probably doesn’t hurt either. Hopefully you can see the 5 cent piece on the table, I wanted to put it closer to the blade, but the air coming off the 20 teeth blade simply blows it over (that blade would make a really good fan, perhaps when I get the side blade cover fabricated and dust extraction fitted).
Below is a picture of the offcuts and the blade. As you can see (bearing in mind this is endgrain and the timber had not been dressed), the cut is very smooth, which although it is a sharp blade, I found to be unexpected given the lack of teeth.
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timber crosscut endgrain.jpg
Hope you guys enjoyed.
Cheers,
Camo
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11th October 2013, 03:42 PM #79SENIOR MEMBER
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After doing the video yesterday, I realised that I didn't really have any recent photos. Still some cosmetic work to be done (especially not sure about the brand new switch, but safety first, I think I might try to make a nicer looking box to go around it), and I probably should have done a better job of cleaning some of the sawdust off from yesterday (but lets face it, it will soon be covered in sawdust anyway)
So here are some pictures from today.
Stenner front right.jpgStenner side.jpgStenner tilt.jpg
Cheers,
Camo
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11th October 2013, 08:43 PM #80GOLD MEMBER
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Looking real fine Camo,
You must be very happy with the results so far it is looking fantastic.
Regards Rod.
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11th October 2013, 09:18 PM #81
Looking great cam, a real credit to you !!
The hand wheels look as if they were always there !
Enjoyed the Video as well, thanks for showing !!
Melbourne Matty.
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12th October 2013, 06:15 PM #82SENIOR MEMBER
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Thanks guys,
I really appreciate the kind words, and likes! There are a lot of people who were instrumental in helping me get this far, and I am truly appreciative.
Thanks,
Camo
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12th October 2013, 11:48 PM #83
Cam I meant to ask, what is the next step with the stenner ?
It looks pretty complete !!
Are you pleased with the results ?
Melbourne Matty.
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23rd October 2013, 12:02 AM #84
Great job Cam. gotta be happy with that.
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6th February 2014, 07:06 PM #85SENIOR MEMBER
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Finishing touches. Searching for a period appropriate Mitre Gauge, can anyone help??
Hey all,
Well I am currently in the process of attempting to make a mitre bar (has a dovetail profile), more details on that, when I work it out (trying to avoid using the services of a milling machine, although eventually that may be the approach I have to take).
The next step will be to add a mitre gauge to the bar. Ideally I would like to find a nice old cast iron mitre gauge that would suit the Stenner, I think adding an Incra might spoil the overall look.
Now I know it's a long shot, but if you don't ask...., so if there is anyone who has an old Mitre Gauge they have been using as a paperweight, or if you have seen one in one of those out of the way timber yards, please could you contact me, as I would be keen to purchase one that suits the style of the table.
Obviously I am not expecting to find one from a Stenner ABM, although wouldn't that make my year!!! What I am looking for is cast iron, and large, the kind you might find on say a Robinson ET/E, Wadkin PK or PP, etc.
Cheers,
Camo
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5th March 2014, 07:44 PM #86Senior Member
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Hi Cam,
Well it's nice to finally be able to see the whole process. Quite the job!
She looks great, actually quite sophisticated mechanisms within and very well done. I like the table slide details, some quality engineering there.
You will be having fun real soon I'm sure.
Alli
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5th March 2014, 11:41 PM #87SENIOR MEMBER
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Alli,
Thanks for the kind words.
I am actually using the saw now, even though I really do need to get some final touches done (as it is not at it's full potential, no rule, a crude fence for the slider, ripping blade and no crosscut blade, etc).
Looking forward to seeing your new post on your Pickles saw (hint....hint).
Cheers,
Camo
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6th March 2014, 12:16 AM #88
Hi Alli, Its good to see you here . I hope you do post your big saw adventures here as well . What a Ripper it is
Hi Cam,
I gathered a few pictures of the PK twin miter fences and put dimensions to them , then sent them off to a foundry today for a quote . Im hanging for what the reply will be ? I asked for a price for one of each and three of each ,and explained they can have the originals to take a pattern off, which I have access to.
The shrinkage rate for cast iron seems small to other metals , I'm just learning about that, grey cast iron is between 0.7 and 1.5 %
I would think there is nothing special about the cast iron mix for a saw part ? Any opinions ??
I spoke to a guy who is interested in the machining as well. see what happens with the first price and take it from there I suppose . I will let you know how it goes. If the price is good I will go for it ,and it would be good for you to either use the PK version if it works on the Stenner, Or make some timber patterns in wood to the best that you think the Stenner was. I will send my miter fence if the price is ok as well .
I will get other quotes as well but If all this does not work out then I will fabricate what I need for my PK out of mild steel .
Rob
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6th March 2014, 02:39 PM #89Senior Member
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Camo - your saw looks a treat - great work.
That picture of the blade with the table retracted scares the daylights out of me !!!! (in a good way)
John
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6th March 2014, 05:20 PM #90SENIOR MEMBER
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Rob,
It's all happening!! Henry has found an option for me, and now you are on the case following up on costs for casting a new one.
I wish I could help give some advice on the cast metal for this part, but to be honest you probably know more than me, even if you think you know very little, perhaps we should ask the guys over in Canada, given some of them seem to be getting fairly far down the hole as far as casting goes.
I have wondered about making parts out of mild steel, not really sure what all the advanatages/disadvantages are for each option?
With the shrinkage and also need to machine some areas of the cast after it comes out of the mould, I would have thought they would somehow use something temperary to build up some areas of the original piece to factor in the need to machine some areas, Henry if you are around, any chance on you sharing some of your wisdom on this topic?
Cheers,
Camo
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