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Thread: Speed Cameras
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13th November 2004, 06:49 PM #61
you're all mad! nothing works ever! :mad:
Not the cops, the public service, politicians, public transport, road systems, the trucking industry etc ad-nauseum. :eek:
who gives a toss anyway ? get on with your lives and stop these feeble attempts to indoctrinate each other - unless one of you is a budding ghandi of course who will lead by passive resistance somehow....
Next thing you'll be designing detector for Oz's fart tax!Last edited by RETIRED; 13th November 2004 at 09:02 PM.
Zed
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13th November 2004, 06:53 PM #62
Originally Posted by LineLefty
. They do not raise revenue for their own purposes, every cent goes back into the community!!!!
Ha x 2,000,000 !!!
except for the dollars they vote into thier own super and pay rises of course and thier own pet projects, etc...
who's living in fantasy land then eh ???? how would you like to buy a bridge Mate ??? got one for sale right here - all yours....Zed
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13th November 2004, 10:45 PM #63Originally Posted by Zed
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13th November 2004, 11:08 PM #64Originally Posted by mixo
Originally Posted by mixo
Originally Posted by mixo
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Public opinion has never been as strong for the police in Victoria as it is now. You live in the safest state in the country for one reason. Because of the hard work, guts and determination of those you call pussies.
Dan. (Biting my tongue) :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:Is there anything easier done than said?- Stacky. The bottom pub, Cobram.
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14th November 2004, 03:50 PM #65SENIOR MEMBER
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Originally Posted by Ben from Vic.
If this is correct which I believe it is what does a company think about profit or safty?
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14th November 2004, 06:10 PM #66
Glenn K.
I got this off the Victorian Governments Arive Alive web site.
Click on the quote to get to the web site (look down the bottom of the page to find the quote).
"In the State Budget, the Government outlined that expected revenue from police fines would be $427.5 million in the 2003/04 financial year."
And a little something extra.
"In Victoria, the road toll has been steadily climbing since 1999, something the Bracks government has swept under the rug, and been inept at fixing. However, the Vic Government raked in a massive speeding earner of $334 million in fiscal 2002-2003 against 2001-2002's $104 million. Much of that will come from those exceeding the speed limit by less than 15km/h. It's a pity the growth in revenue doesn't correspond to a reduction in death - Victoria's road toll for 2002 looks like being line-ball with the 396 lives lost there in 2001."
Ben.
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14th November 2004, 06:37 PM #67Novice
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I called the police force pussies in not the way they do their overall job, but in the way they keep the silence on this issue, always backing whatever the minister says.
Most of hitlers men where following(orders0 what their goverment said, you going to say everyone follows whatever the minister says????
All I saying there whould be some balance.There is none now.
mixo
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14th November 2004, 07:53 PM #68Registered
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You sure do have a way with words Mixo, are you going to try to upset every board member?
Your not Ken are you???
You probably need to meet people in person before you start putting them down for what they do, but I dont suppose face to face is you thing is it??
Al, friend of a cop or two. :mad:Last edited by ozwinner; 14th November 2004 at 08:57 PM.
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14th November 2004, 08:55 PM #69
I will stand by what I said before.
The only people upset by speed cameras and radar are the very people who do not obey the law. :mad:
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14th November 2004, 09:01 PM #70Registered
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Originally Posted by DanP
Sorry, couldnt help it.
Al
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14th November 2004, 10:00 PM #71Deceased
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Originally Posted by mixo
I was born during the Nazi occupation of Holland and my parents experienced personally the treatment of Hitlers police. One example was when a Gestapo officer was in our home and held a gun at my mothers head everytime the door bell rang because they were trying to catch her brother who was due to call in that afternoon.
Your efforts to compare that kind of attitude with the Victorian police not speaking out against the minister concerned shows a complete lack of knowledge as to what the Nazi's really were.
Now I don't personally know Dan, but his posts made perfect sense. If there is balance needed than the public, not the police, should make their voice heard. Only then will the government listen.
Peter.
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14th November 2004, 11:01 PM #72Originally Posted by DavidG
Mixo. If you read papers or watch the news (unlikely) you would have seen not long ago that there was a story about the police in Melbourne speaking out against the way that speed cameras are used. It was at about the time that a study in Europe found that cameras have little or no effect on the road toll. The police who speak on the use of cameras in the media are Command, who are more or less directly employed by the Government. For them to speak out against the governments policies would be like you telling your boss to GF. Not good for your career prospects. (If you work that is)
Ben, regarding the "rising" Road Toll, I don't have the stats handy but I can get them. The road toll has remained steady for several years give or take twenty or so. I can recall a slogan from about 10 - 15 years ago, "Make war on 1084" That was the road toll back then. I think we have come a long way since then. No unnatural death is acceptable but there will always be deaths on the road, and not all will be someones fault. Sometimes people doing the right thing lose control of their car due to factors outside their control. If this happens on a Highway there will be serious accidents.
Al, Meow
Glenn, the money goes straight into consolidated revenue, a slice taken by Civic Compliance, the company who runs the cameras. The rest is the Governments to use as it sees fit. In their defence, a lot of money is used by the TAC in anti road toll ads and other associated things.
DanIs there anything easier done than said?- Stacky. The bottom pub, Cobram.
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14th November 2004, 11:17 PM #73Retired
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And on Dans note, this thread is closed before verbal war sets in.
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