Domestic Violence

[Gingermick]

Mick,
I was not critiscising you.... you are to be admired for taking the calmer path.

Me, I have a remarkable tendancy to stuff things up... so I'm sure that I would reacted in a manner that would not have helped.l.

It went furher last night, probably shouldn't say anything about what happened as it will go to court, but I ended up spending the night in hospital after provoking no one.
I got king hit from the right and my eye wont open.
Twas the result of the stupidity of a friend of SWMBO's
bloody idiot women (no a generalisation)

[scooter]

Bloody hell, Mick, stay out of swingin' reach, mate.

[Clinton1]

Mick,

As much as we want to do the right thing, sometimes we forget that it is more important to do the right thing our own family.

As good a set of playmates that the other families kids are for your own... your kids now have a father that has been belted by a ratbag.

Mate, it must be hard... feeling for you.

[johnc]

Mick,

I would hate to be in your shoes at the moment, and hope that something works out to improve the whole useless mess your neighbour has created.

Goodluck with whatever happens next (hopefully something custodial)

John.

[keith53]

It went furher last night, probably shouldn't say anything about what happened as it will go to court, but I ended up spending the night in hospital after provoking no one.
I got king hit from the right and my eye wont open.
Twas the result of the stupidity of a friend of SWMBO's
bloody idiot women (no a generalisation)

Mick,

I feel really sorry for you. Obviously you've been taught to avoid violence and that's a shame. You need to get yourself to a point where if someone hurts your missus, you drop them like a suitcase! End of story. If they do it again, you hit them twice as hard. Either they'll get sick of it, or need some longterm care. Doesn't matter if you're big or not, follow the ancient art of lap gooch.

There's nothing to be gained from turning the other cheek, other than to be hit on the other side of the face!

In a perfect world there wouldn't be any voilence but the reality is that we don't live in such a place. I'm afraid that anyone who preaches tolerance in your example or any other circumstance of overt voilence, needs to reach down between their legs, under their pecker, and grab and squeeze. If it doesn't hurt, don't worry, you're destined to be trampled on anyway. If it does hurt, then you still have some balls and so there's still some hope for you.

The situation you describe is like Don Quixote. You see things one way and the neanderthal you're dealing with probably has claim to only half a brain and will never see reason. Like begets like. These idiots only understand one thing and unfortunately, the harder you hit him, the more you make your point. To overcome damage to both yourself and SWMBO, drop down to his level for a minute or two and kick the ????? out of him.

Hope the eye heals quickly.

Keith

[reeves]

The situation you describe is like Don Quixote. You see things one way and the neanderthal you're dealing with probably has claim to only half a brain and will never see reason. Like begets like. These idiots only understand one thing and unfortunately, the harder you hit him, the more you make your point. To overcome damage to both yourself and SWMBO, drop down to his level for a minute or two and kick the ????? out of him.

Hope the eye heals quickly.

Keith

Interesting comments Keith, i tend to agree.

I wont go into a long story but we have a series of incidents with the idiot next door which have ended up with one of his 2 girls age 11 and 13 still in rehab hostpital crippled for life with permanent brain damage and a valve in her heart and the other one seriously traumatised on suicide watch under DOCS foster care. He is now only allowed see them under strict government supervision and when his trial comes around he is likley to be jailed for some years.

The asshole is charge with grevious bodily harm and cruelty to a child under 12 and my wife had to sit through the committal hearing as a witness while said dickhead represented himself. Now they bailed him as he got a good lawyer and as he had been harrasing witnesses we had to go along to the bail hearing, i was reprimanded for carrying a small wooden club into the courthouse and before that threatening to kill him several times as he came on my property which he hasnt since.. My wife was close to the girls and all the local women have been severly emotionaly traumatised, the wife still having dreams and get upset. Now i had a strange urge to kill him for some weeks before it happened whenever i saw him, he never done nothing directly to me or my wife other than us off so i have never approached him. Now if i had acted on my instincts a little more and even broken the law maybe the girls would not be damaged for life, maybe not who knows.

Theres more to this sad story but i wont elaborate on it unless anyone wants me to.

The moral of the story is Mick that sometime you gotta protect yourself and yr family, if you dont then yr gonna get damaged or worse women and kids will get hurt but i guess you may be thinking about that now. Hope it all works out well mate.

[Gingermick]

...Though the good to came out of round 2 is that SWMBO now knows that neighbour over the road (The female she was trying to help originally, belted her and kicked her friday) is as much of a mongrel as her abusive partner. That woman had an out and has now lost the best friend she will ever have.
On the upside, I can open my eye a bit this morning. As a result of an accident 6 years ago I lost the hearing in my right side. It was dark and this person yelled some abuse at me, I turned to my left (which is where everything I hear seems to come from) he came and took a free shot from the right. The other upside is that SWMBO has vowed to stop drinking. I'll just keep a photo of myself at home to show her anytime she feels like a drink.

[Gingermick]

You see things one way and the neanderthal you're dealing with probably has claim to only half a brain and will never see reason.
Keith

Was one of his mates who attacked me

e harder you hit him, the more you make your point. To overcome damage to both yourself and SWMBO, drop down to his level for a minute or two and kick the ????? out of him.

The blind side hit rendered me senseless for a bit, but he ended up in hospital too. I am very glad the abusive neighbour (only person who remaned calm) pulled him off me (because I got some recompence while on the ground let me assure you) I may have ended up finishing him off.
Which would not have been good for anyone .....on a mac at present and icons wont works but insert the shaking head one

[Gingermick]

Doesn't matter if you're big or not, follow the ancient art of lap gooch.

Not famliar with lap gooch, please edify

[Poppa]

I've tried to stay out of this thread because I hold views that most folks are probably going to put some kind of label on. But I just can't help myself!
I do not believe in turning the other cheek. I do not believe that it is wrong to use violence when it is necessary and the right thing to do. I decided a long time ago that I would live my life according to what I believe was right and good. And if that means that sometimes I need to belt someone to stop other people getting hurt, or to stop a grave wrong being done, then so be it. I know full well that there may be consequences from such actions, and that the moronic society that we live in today would probably want to lock me away for such things. And I will live with those consequences if and when the time comes. I do not believe that consequences should be gauged when making a decision about what is the right thing to do.
So, if someone enters my house using stealth or force, I will assume that they are there for the express purpose of doing my family harm and I will deal with them using whatever force I deem necessary. If I see someone committing violence against another person I will not just stand by - I will enter the fray on the side of the angels. If that means that I am injured or incarcerated, so be it. I will not stand by and let evil be done.
A long time ago I read some books that taught me about honour. I've never forgotten the lesson. I've embarassed my wife on many occasions because I will not allow wrongdoing to occur in my presence without trying to do something about it. She thinks I should just let it happen like everyone else does.
And Mick, if it were my neighbour I would ring the police every time there was a disturbance. If there was a physical threat to the safety of a child or another innocent person involved and the police were tardy in their response (a not unknown occurrence), then I would act. That is just who I am. I applaud you for trying to do your best in a difficult situation and for not just standing idly by. I also applaud your self-control, which in your situation I'm afraid I would lack.
It is my belief that if everyone stood up for what is right and just the world would be a far better place, and we would soon outnumber the arseholes of the world instead of the reverse being the case. I believe in truth, honour, and personal responsibility. Old fashioned I know. Don't care.
Oh and to those who say "leave it to the police", I say NO. We have left it to the courts and the pollies and the police for too long. Our society is being eroded by those who are making stupid laws and making us incapable (legally) of defending ourselves. It is our responsibility as members of this society to try to do the right thing - it is not something that we should leave to others. Stand up and be counted. The police are pretty much powerless because we've allowed our "leaders" to make them so. Either that or they are so busy they can't spare the time. Does anyone really live under the illusion that the police protect us anymore? If you do then I wish you luck next time someone with evil in their heart wants to do you or your family harm.

[keith53]

Not famliar with lap gooch, please edify

Mick, (put your tongue around your cheek now)

Its an ancient Welsh art, which uses a shilaley, and you hit the other guy even before he's thought of hitting you. That's why its so effective! Its a silly comment, I know, but my accountant (he's also my mate) and I solve a lot of problems by speculating on the effectiveness of this questionable ancient art.

My previous post probably oversimplified things a bit but it really peeves me when idiots exert a physical advantage over someone, (often and usually women and children) simply because they can.

In my case, its reminded me that many unfortunate and innocent people in East Timor were unncecssarily killed because a bunch of monkeys that just climed down from the trees were suddenly given the means to wreck havoc. No commonsense, no thought for the poor buggers who couldn't protect or defend themselves but, hey, we've got the guns, lets go out and kill people, that makes us superior. Of course, put a few hundred well-trained Australian soldiers into the mix and the whole equation changes. They ran like mongrel dogs. You're neighbour doesn't seem a whole lot different to me.

I'll stop rambling now except to make the observation that most posts I can take or leave. Now and then something gets the blood boiling and you're post is an example of this.

I really hope things work out and that you can move to a place where you have the sort of decent neighbours most of the rest of us have.

Cheers,
Keith

[keith53]

I've tried to stay out of this thread because I hold views that most folks are probably going to put some kind of label on. But I just can't help myself!
I do not believe in turning the other cheek. I do not believe that it is wrong to use violence when it is necessary and the right thing to do. I decided a long time ago that I would live my life according to what I believe was right and good. And if that means that sometimes I need to belt someone to stop other people getting hurt, or to stop a grave wrong being done, then so be it. I know full well that there may be consequences from such actions, and that the moronic society that we live in today would probably want to lock me away for such things. And I will live with those consequences if and when the time comes. I do not believe that consequences should be gauged when making a decision about what is the right thing to do.
So, if someone enters my house using stealth or force, I will assume that they are there for the express purpose of doing my family harm and I will deal with them using whatever force I deem necessary. If I see someone committing violence against another person I will not just stand by - I will enter the fray on the side of the angels. If that means that I am injured or incarcerated, so be it. I will not stand by and let evil be done.
A long time ago I read some books that taught me about honour. I've never forgotten the lesson. I've embarassed my wife on many occasions because I will not allow wrongdoing to occur in my presence without trying to do something about it. She thinks I should just let it happen like everyone else does.
And Mick, if it were my neighbour I would ring the police every time there was a disturbance. If there was a physical threat to the safety of a child or another innocent person involved and the police were tardy in their response (a not unknown occurrence), then I would act. That is just who I am. I applaud you for trying to do your best in a difficult situation and for not just standing idly by. I also applaud your self-control, which in your situation I'm afraid I would lack.
It is my belief that if everyone stood up for what is right and just the world would be a far better place, and we would soon outnumber the arseholes of the world instead of the reverse being the case. I believe in truth, honour, and personal responsibility. Old fashioned I know. Don't care.
Oh and to those who say "leave it to the police", I say NO. We have left it to the courts and the pollies and the police for too long. Our society is being eroded by those who are making stupid laws and making us incapable (legally) of defending ourselves. It is our responsibility as members of this society to try to do the right thing - it is not something that we should leave to others. Stand up and be counted. The police are pretty much powerless because we've allowed our "leaders" to make them so. Either that or they are so busy they can't spare the time. Does anyone really live under the illusion that the police protect us anymore? If you do then I wish you luck next time someone with evil in their heart wants to do you or your family harm.

Hear, Hear!!

[Gingermick]

I too believe iin truth honour and personal ressponsibility. I was keen to take my bluegum mackeral smashing thing over on the wednesday, but SWMBO insisted the she must be obeyed and I was, under no circumtances, to get myself involved. The neighbours have no honour and their three boys will grow thinking its ok to grab and push around and threaten women. Thats a shame but SWMBO now realises that this woman (who told her that she loved her soooo much) was using her so she now feels nothing but sorrow for her kids. I have since taken the decision that these animals are not human and therefore not able to be included in the poll. Slag made her own bed and kept making it and now I dont care what happens to her. I still care for the kids and if I see neglect will inform child services, but that's all we can do. Thamks for your input poppa

[Burnsy]

I lived with a mate at his house for about a year and he had two run down weather board places next door that were obviously cheap rental. They generally attracted uni students and hippy types but for about five months we had some real low lifes living there. No kids thankfully but he use to really get into his girlfriend verbally and you would hear things being smashed. We were both working in landscape construction and always had a ute or trailer full of gear in the drive. After a few weeks of trying to ignore him we took to aggressively (complete with grunts and growls) knocking the concrete off our shovels on the concrete footpath right out the front of his gate every time he started and he would stop real quick. I guess he didn't want to see what would happen if we had to open his gate before he stopped. He probably still did it when we were not around but it did use to make us feel better and provide some light entertainment for us in the evenings.

[la Huerta]

a mate of mine teaches self defence for woman, the result is not just a woman that can defend herself but 'confidence' knowing that men are not stronger and woman are not weaker...

they often get abused so bad because they think they can never overpower a man...
but they do have the power, i don't mean they will all be able to beat him up but having a stronger mind and doing something about it like going to the cops is also a way to overpower the him...

it makes me sad to hear about this abuse, and the fact that the woman does nothing about it because she is just too scared or thinks to one will listen...