COMPLEX roof - HELP! - Hip end with offset partial octagonal

[pawnhead]

For the mathematically challenged , its fast, accurate, eliminates human error & most of all it saves precious onsite time. If you can do all that without one (as some people can) I'm jealous.

Oh, it's a running program is it?
That would save some time if you could just plug in your dimensions and come up with all your lengths and angles. And certainly it would eliminate a lot of potential for mistakes.

I thought it was just lessons on trig.

[Carpenter]

Its a construction calculator, but I sent you the link for the tutorial..sorry about the confusion.

[ChipperChip]

Its a construction calculator...

That's freaky. The irish carpenter I have (had) working for me mentioned these things. I'd never heard of them, and now two days later someone mentions them here too! Dont know where he'd seen them because all he's done before this has been fixing (or, in Ireland/UK, second fixing). He must have seen them in use in Ireland I suppose. I dont think I'd pay for the fancy 10-15 buttons, given that I could never work in imperial.

And yes, I say 'had' because he's decided to go travelling when I need him for another two weeks or so, and one of the apprentices has trade school all next week. Does anyone know a chip in Melbourne who wants a week or two's work?

[Carpenter]

I dont think I'd pay for the fancy 10-15 buttons, given that I could never work in imperial.

Take a closer look there Chipper, this is a fully functioning metric calculator as well as imperial. So yes, it also can convert between the two. http://www.jobbercalculator.com/metric_conversion.htm

[ChipperChip]

I realise that. I'm not really interested in working in imperial at all, not even for conversions. For the VERY rare time I need to do that, I'm happy to do it long-hand. I'd rather not have to pay the extra as there are other similar devices that are cheaper.

But I can see that it's potentially a very useful piece of kit, if I did more roofs. Give me a $5 trig calculator and I'll be happy. Actually, a free software one on my iPaq will do Between that and my cad package at home I'm sorted for pretty much anything.

ps all, pics of finished roof by the end of the week. It has been a.... challenge

[pawnhead]

Yeh, that just looks like a normal calculator to me, Carpenter. Chipper's right. $5 should do it, or $0 on the web.
I thought you were talking about a 3D cad program.

[ChipperChip]

And even more powerful for $0 on the web

Good for ordering concrete from very old concrete companies.

Even useful for the things you never knew you wanted to know, like how long it takes for sunlight to reach the earth.

[pawnhead]

Wow that's pretty cool. I didn't know you could do that.
Cheers

[ChipperChip]

And that's just BEGINNING to scratch the surface...

[pawnhead]

Yes I realise that there's lots of things you can do with Google.
On the OCAU website, there's a thread that mentions a way that you can use Google to search for web cams. You can tap in to peoples security cameras and operate them remotely. You can spy on people who are supposed to be working, or who believe that they have privacy.

I can't find the thread at the moment, but I believe that there's nothing illegal about it since the people concerned haven't looked into installing security blockers or encryption, and are thus offering the information on the web.

Cheers